Kick It Naturally – Vertigo and Dizzy Spells
T.C. Hale is not a doctor and does not claim to be a doctor, licensed in any type of medical field. Don’t be an idiot and use anything heard on this show as medical advice. This information should be used for educational purposes only and you should contact your doctor for any medical advice. Now get off me.
Kinna: Welcome to Kick It Naturally, I’m Kinna McInroe, and I’m here with
T.C Hale, author, natural health expert, producer, and I just found out very OCD.
Tony: OCD! I’m 3 times OCD.
Kinna: Uh huh. He does everything 3 times.
Will: That should be a topic for one of these.
Kinna: We should do that.
Tony: Didn’t we do that already? Didn’t we do it 3 times.
Kinna: Yeah. Yes, we should do that topic 3 times just to make sure it gets done right.
Tony: We haven’t done OCD yet?
Will: We did ADHD and ADD.
Tony & Kinna:Ah!
Kinna: But I think those are pretty different, huh?
Will: No, those are different.
Tony: Yeah, they’re different.
Kinna: And they can be a little the same. Who knows? I don’t really know anything.
Tony: Let’s just do that today. Let’s take everybody’s questions about Vertigo today and we’ll just apply that to OCD.
Kinna: We’ll just link it somehow.
Tony: We’ll just pretend there are saying OCD and we’ll just see if it works out.
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: I think it will.
Kinna: And that other gentlemen’s voice who you’re hearing and the laughter is coming from hottie patotty, Will Schmidt.
Tony: Word up?
Kinna: Hollywood trainer of the stars. He’s promised me a birthday lap dance today.
Kinna: So I’m gonna make him hold good on that promise.
Tony: Yeah, he should have it coming. So what you need to do today is, um, Kinna’s gonna explain why it’s important that you like us on Facebook. But when you go and you like us you need to put in there happy birthday, Kinna. Cause today’s Kinna’s birthday! Woohoo!
Kinna: Exactly! Woohoo! I’m a year older.
Tony: She’s 27.
Tony: And that’s good times. That’s fun for everybody.
Will: Yay! Yay!
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: So just wish her a happy birthday even though by the time you hear this is gonna be like 3 weeks later.
Kinna: And I’ll be like hey, you’re late to the party, but I am expecting my spankings from you, both of you later.
Tony: I imagine.
Kinna: Uh huh. So go ahead drop what ever you’re doing. If you’ve got a baby in your arms, if you I don’t know, if you’ve got your martini drop it for a second. You can come back.
Tony: The baby will hold your martini.
Kinna: It’ll hold onto the martini. Go ahead and like us on Facebook at kick it in the nuts. You know like Tony said we’re gonna post topics there that we’re doing on future shows and you guys can post any questions there that you want us to cover and we’ll probably cover it.
Tony: We don’t skip that many.
Kinna: Only ones we don’t really know the answers to.
Tony: I like it when we have some. We have some today that I’m gonna be like I don’t know.
Tony: Yeah, it’s gonna be fun.
Kinna: Oh my gosh I gotta take a picture of this. Tony doesn’t know. What’s up with that?
Tony: It’s good times.
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Kinna: All right, so today we’re talking about dizziness and Vertigo and I know that I experience this sometimes, it’s probably due, I guess you’re probably going to talk about it, but to my low blood pressure. I’ll stand up or I’ll be seated or I’ll do something really quickly and then I feel like okay, I see spots. I gotta stand still for a second and make sure I center before I take another walk. It also happens after I’ve drank a bunch of alcohol.
Tony: When you’re drunk too.
Tony: That’s a different thing I think.
Kinna: Yeah. Yeah.
Tony: Do you want to talk about the low blood pressure thing a little bit and kind of give us an intro to that and what we’re going to be talking about a lot?
Will: Yeah, if you’ve done any of the, read any of Tony’s books or done any of the courses we have online like the digestive issues course and you’ve heard us talk about the term electrolyte deficiency. Which is basically you have low blood pressure you don’t have enough minerals to run your brain and run your body right. So all those signals that your nervous system is trying to send your body and your body is trying to send back to your brain just don’t come through on time. They just don’t come through with all the information you need. And so you can be not only dizzy and feel disoriented, but also very forgetful or low energy, anxiety, depression all that kind of stuff.
Tony: Yeah a lot of things can come up.
Kinna: Yeah, fun stuff. I always…
Tony: I was just gonna say this is just one option for that.
Kinna: Oh, I was just gonna say if I wasn’t so electrolyte deficient I could probably be like some kind of genius.
Kinna: If I wasn’t slow.
Will: Probably considering how smart you already are.
Kinna: I know, right?
Will: So we’ve talked about that before when we’ve talked about the podcast on depression and on anxiety, cravings. All this stuff always comes back to low blood pressure is one of the primary causes. And one of the primary causes of that is weak digestion, so you don’t get a lot of the nutrients from your food and imbalanced blood sugar. Cause usually when you don’t have strong digestion you just eat carbs and it puts you on this blood sugar rollercoaster.
Tony: Ups and downs and crashes.
Will: Right and as your blood sugar goes up and down so does your blood pressure. So if you’re trying to figure out is my Vertigo caused by this electrolyte deficiency thing? Try to pay attention to do sometimes in the day it’s there and sometimes it’s not. Cause if that can relate then you can do your little self-tests and see oh, well right now I can’t stand upright and my blood pressure is like under a 100, whatever it is. Then you can say oh, maybe I should work on this. Whereas if it’s there really constant all the time whether you just ate or not and your blood pressure’s decent, then you might want to look at these other causes of Vertigo which can be more anatomical.
Tony: Yeah and we’re gonna talk about it. The thing about dizzy spells and Vertigo is that there’s a huge long list of possible causes for both of them. And we could never cover all of them in this show and the variety is wide. Like there could be an infection in your ear you know all kinds of stuff that can happen. But we’re going to talk about the most common that we see. And that will allow you to look at your own physiology, see if maybe that’s an issue for you. And if it is then you might be able to take some steps to see some improvement. But when we’re talking about the low blood pressure stuff and the lack of the ability for signals to make it all the way through kind of picture it like it’s minerals in your body that these signals they’re kind of electrical signals kind of bounce off these minerals, so that they can make it where they’re supposed to go. From the brain to the body from the, you know, but wherever they’re going they need that electricity to make it happen. And when we don’t have a lot of minerals, it kind of can cause problems where those signals don’t travel correctly and then we can feel a little dizzy. And maybe you’re someone who also deals with like motion sickness and stuff like that. Maybe that’s another symptom that you experience too. So, you can just look at your blood pressure and see it. And what kind of number are we looking at, Will, when we look at that?
Will: Well, if it’s under 113/73, so systolic below 113 and diastolic under 73 we usually say that’s electrolyte deficiency. So you can check that out you can get a little home blood pressure monitor cuff or go into a pharmacy.
Kinna: CVS has them.
Will: Right and just test your own blood pressure and see if it’s below that you might want to look at that as a clue that your dizziness can be related too.
Tony: Right and when you check your blood pressure it’s best to do it at least 2 hours after a meal, so that all those sugars and everything from that meal are not in your blood and raising that blood pressure like it could give you like a false oh, my blood pressure is o.k., but then an hour later it’s really in the dirt. So it’s best to do it about 2 hours after. We teach people how to do these simple self-tests that we talk about in our FREE digestion course at kickitinthenuts.com.
Kinna: Do people really get carsick or do they just want to sit in the front seat?
Kinna: Yeah, they just want shotgun every time. I hate people that are like oh, I get carsick. I have to sit in the front seat.
Tony: No, it’s a real thing. And that’s kind of a motion sickness and a lot of those people have low blood pressure where they don’t have enough resources for when you start jiggling them around a little bit.
Kinna: Especially riding with me.
Tony: Right, right, things can’t maneuver as well. Also a lot of people will have an issue of you know they’ll be lying down and when they get up like you were saying that’s when they have like a dizziness or light headedness or that kind of thing. And what happens is when we’re lying flat like that and we come up that the blood is supposed to be pushed to the head so that you can continue to function.
Kinna: But the blood pressure’s low, so it doesn’t get there in time.
Tony: Yeah, blood pressure’s low or maybe adrenals sometimes help in that process if they’re fatigued from dealing with so many other problems that the body’s having that may not function as well. But a lot of times if you can lift the blood pressure and get it more resources then the body can do that maneuver of sitting up from the couch. I know that’s a complex maneuver and that’s not something that you want to do without a seatbelt and a helmet on or something, but if you have enough resources you can do advanced moves.
Kinna: I should just stop sitting on the couch so much.
Tony: Right. Right.
Kinna: That’s the solution there, but also with working out too sometimes, you know, you’re working out and then all of a sudden you stand or something or you have been standing, but you just stand up straight and you’re like oh, I’m dizzy, but that’s another thing.
Tony: Yeah, but now you’re just I think that was Amber’s question. You’re just gonna step all over Amber’s question.
Kinna: Exactly. I’m gonna steal it.
Tony: You’re just gonna use your birthday card with that.
Kinna: Sorry, Amber.
Tony: So there are a lot of questions….
Kinna: I’ll still read it.
Tony: Uh huh, so why don’t we get into them because there’s some other stuff to talk about and we’ll cover it in the questions.
Kinna: So we’re getting into questions now?
Kinna: Wow, that was quick.
Tony: You want to do birthday cake first?
Kinna: Aw. If I thought you were being serious I’d get excited right now. This is how he tortures me.
Will: It’s a paleo cake. Don’t get too excited.
Kinna: Uh, Carmen, from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I’ve had dizziness for the last two weeks now and was prescribed Antivert for Vertigo. Even though I was negative for the eye test. The Antivert does not work for me and I was wondering if there are any natural regimens I can do at home to relieve these symptoms?
Tony: So when she says she did o.k. on the eye test, um, you know, actual clinical Vertigo is they say is kind of where you either feel like the room is spinning or maybe you’re spinning inside your head. And that can be a lot different than just feeling a little dizzy or feeling a little light headed. And the dizzy and the light headed is more common with the low blood pressure and we see that that’s probably the cause 60/70% of the time at least. Another cause is inner ear issues and there can be a wide variety of them. They do this test where there are like these little calcium crystal stones that are in our inner ear and up in these canals and places like that and they can either get dislodged or moved to the wrong place and when this happens it affects how that inner ear functions and a person can experience Vertigo. And why this is happening I have no clue, I mean I have some thoughts, I think we’ll kind of get into it with some other people’s questions. When this issue is happening you can do this test where your eyes will move involuntarily and then they know this is the issue that’s going on. I think they put you in like a special goggle where it’s kind of dark in there and maybe you can only look at one object or something. If you do this involuntary movement the cameras and the goggles pick it up and they understand this is what the problem is.
Kinna: So your inner ear is like responsible for balance?
Tony: Yeah, it can there’s a lot of functions in there that can contribute to balance. Because a lot of people maybe they’re not spinning, but they have balance issues. I mean there are people that live in a wheelchair because when they stand up they fall over because of these balance issues. And a lot of that can be from what they will say is inner ear issues, but there’s a wide variety of why those can happen.
Kinna: And deaf people don’t naturally have that? I mean just because you’re deaf, you wouldn’t be out of balance?
Tony: Yeah, there’s different things that could cause someone to be deaf as well, so I wouldn’t even know where to start in that conversation. That’s probably a conversation where I could be as dumb as possible. That might be fun. Maybe we should get into that?
Kinna: Ok, good. All right.
Tony: But in any case, let’s picture these little stones rattling around up in the inner ear and it’s causing problems. There’s this maneuver that like doctors and a lot of chiropractors will do where it’s called this Epley maneuver, so if you feel like this could be an issue for you can look up Epley maneuver, google it or YouTube or something and you’ll find these videos of these doctors and chiropractors doing these maneuvers with these people of like moving their head and laying them down and rolling them over all them in this specific order and they say that basically they’re trying to get these stones into the right place, so that all that machinery functions correctly and they say it like really works. And like 7 out of 10 cases that the person will feel better even on the first visit.
Will: It’s like one of those games where you’re rolling the things around with the balls.
Tony: It’s exactly the little maze with the marbles in there and they’re trying to move it around. And they say that it’s much more complicated than that but that’s an easy way to understand. I can remember my mom telling me that your marbles are loose in your head and she was right. But this is very interesting to me. So this is one possible cause of Vertigo and she says that she passed the test that her eyes were not moving involuntarily so that’s probably not the cause for her, but it sounds like her doctor says lets just give you the medication for that anyways. So if that didn’t work for you then it’s time to look at some other things, so you could look at blood pressure and see is it low are minerals low and then you could take some steps to lift them and then if that improved the situation then you know what’s going on.
Kinna: Cool. Wendy. My son has had bouts of Vertigo. He’s 33 and reasonably fit. He felt that it was stress related. Is it possible that stress can cause Vertigo? I kind of thought it had more to do with the electrolyte imbalance. I’ll be looking forward to the podcast on this subject. Thanks, Tony. She’s already got it down. She already knows.
Tony: She’s a book reader though. She’s in our support group and has been having some success. But let’s do this question by answering OCD. We’ll just put OCD in for Vertigo and then we’ll just see if it works out. So if your son has OCD and he’s on Antivert…no, but you know we had an episode on stress, and Will, has a lot of good information on his site about stress and how to simmer down now. But do you want to talk about how if someone is electrolyte deficient what stress can do to that and how that could magnify?
Will: Yeah, so if you’re already kind of low on minerals and you’re in that fight or flight sympathetic state, that’s the state where your nervous is accelerating glycolysis, so the speed at which you’re burning sugar, because of the perceived threat. It wants you to have lots of energy to deal with a tiger chasing you.
Will: So, you’re going to burn through your sugars and your electrolytes even faster when you’re stressed out like that and that’s not cool for someone who is already short on electrolytes and burning through sugar too quickly cause they’ll crash even faster.
Tony: Right, so if a person can be dizzy from low resources, if you put them in a situation where they’re using up even more resources that could exacerbate the dizzy. So we just slammed that one. Boom! Happening, Wendy. Thanks for stopping by.
Kinna: Wow! Boom! There you go! All right. Gotcha! Amy, Vertigo spells are horrible! They make you feel like you’ve just stepped off a spinning ride. Makes you feel nauseous and dizzy and if you try to stand you’ll even fall into a wall. Is there something to do or take naturally because I’m getting tired of paying a doctor?
Tony: And fixing my walls.
Kinna: Yeah and taking meds that are addictive. I have been diagnosed with Vertigo by a neurologist and medicated for over ten years. Please tell me there is a solution? There is. There is a solution.
Tony: There could be. You know one thing that’s interesting is that this thing about the stones being in the wrong place the crystals is really all over the medical literature, but a lot of times they’re just using medication. So it might be worth checking out this Epley Maneuver and it’s spelled E-P-L-E-Y. So just google that and see if that might be something for you. But the first step that I would want you to do is just take your blood pressure. Let’s see where you are and see if you qualify to maybe need some help in other areas.
Will & Kinna: (both speak)
Kinna: Oh, go for it, Will.
Will: I would look at also how is your body chemistry with the medication and without. Then you can kind of take a look at what is the medication doing to your base body chemistry. Then you can start to try to take steps to do that with nutrition instead, if you can take any time off from the meds. Not that I’m allowed to say that, but if it were me, I’d maybe try that.
Tony: I think she’s the one that was saying that the meds were not helping.
Kinna: Yeah she’s been on ‘em for ten years and they’re addictive and she’s wants to do it naturally, so she is wanting to try that.
Tony: Oh right, so if they are helping then yeah, you might get a better understanding of what they’re doing.
Will: Because those meds are not pushing the crystals back into the right spot either.
Tony: Right, right they’re doing something different.
Kinna: So, but like so to get your, I know we’ve said it a bunch of times, but I don’t know if we’ve said it this time or if it’s just all running together, but so if you are electrolyte deficient or you do have low blood pressure how are you going to raise that? I know this answer, but I’m just setting it up.
Will: It’s your birthday let’s see what you got.
Kinna: Oh, salts. A good mineral salt like, Celtic Sea Salt. It can’t be like table salt.
Tony: Uh huh. Happy Birthday one!
Kinna: Yeah, you could have a little Blackstrap Molasses. A little of that, Maybe like a teaspoon of that? You can do the Concentrace Mineral drops, you can do that and if all that fails you just have a big ole piece of bread.
Tony: That’s probably not going to fix it. That’s where your birthday just got cut off.
Tony: Yeah and what’s the main thing you’d want to do with low blood pressure, Will?
Will: I’d want to fix digestion.
Tony: Come on, birthday girl. Come on, birthday girl.
Kinna: Oh, Gosh! I’ve blocked it out now. I’ve blocked it out.
Will: And then I’d also try to like once you’ve fixed digestion, and this is really important too, I’m finding myself having to say this more clearly with all the people I work with one on one, you have to really fix your digestion first before you try to really change a lot of things in your diet.
Kinna: It’s not going to do anything.
Will: Like for example, if you’re electrolyte deficient, most people in that case are also usually fast oxidizer they’re running mostly off of sugars they’re not using proteins and fats well for fuel. So for fast oxidizers it’s generally a good idea to eat a good amount of protein, especially like the gamey proteins that are high in what we called purines like red meats and darker poultry and oily fish. But that’s not gonna work at all unless you fix your digestion.
Tony: Cause you can’t break that down. They’re harder to break down.
Will: Yeah, you’re just gonna feel awful and hate me if you just eat those meats, if you don’t also add some stomach acid like Betaine HCL or something to help you do that, so you can become more of a mixed oxidizer, a balanced oxidizer.
Tony: And we find that most people with low blood pressure are there for one of the reasons is usually having a hard time pulling all the nutrients out of the food. They can also be peeing out more than they should, but the most common situation is that. You Kinna mentioned some supplements that can help lift electrolytes right away. Like Concentrace mineral drops and some sea salt, but the real goal should be to get minerals out of the food that you’re eating and then of course to try and eat foods that have more nutrients in them.
Kinna: And also like I didn’t know and I’m a big water drinker and I was drinking so much water I was flushing myself out, so it’s like you really have to qualify yourself and look at your numbers to see if you can drink that much water.
Tony: That’s a good point. That’s perfect because that helps us see that there is nothing that is right for every person. Even more water. Some people can’t, they don’t qualify to drink more water.
Will: And we should also mention that it’s not just stomach acid. It’s what you said about that whole nutrient extraction thing happens from that magic of when acid from the stomach acid combines with the bile so you have that little sizzle of that acid in base or acid in alkaline thing where you liberate the nutrients from your food in that little chemical explosion.
Tony: Right and if you want to learn more about digestion just listen or read anything that Will or I have ever said or written and you’ll learn about how to improve digestion.
Kinna: Or my diary.
Tony: Right, yes, Kinna’s diary is only filled with Dear Digestion, I’m so glad I don’t have diarrhea today.
Kinna: Uh huh. Monty, from Padukah, Kentucky. I only suffer from dizziness and Vertigo when I’m high up somewhere.
Kinna: Okay, I need to reread that. When I’m high up somewhere. I also have it if I’m looking at a picture or show that shows a place of heights. Hm. I can understand why when I am personally am up high, but don’t understand why the other times. Are you high when you’re up high?
Tony: You know one thing to consider is you know, Will was just talking about how stress can exacerbate some conditions or some dizzy spell issues and if you have a fear of heights, then that’s a stress to you and that can create a panic situation for your body where your body is freaking out and viewing that as a danger. That would make a little more sense for why if you’re watching an episode of CSI when they’re on the 20th floor or something that that would create actual dizziness for you. Cause you’re just on your couch. Do you have thoughts on that, Will?
Will: No, I think you’re right. I do think that at high altitudes though you can definitely look at how your blood pressure would be intensely effected.
Kinna: Could it also have something to do with oxygen?
Tony: It could.
Kinna: Oh my God! I’m so smart today.
Tony: It needs to be your birthday everyday.
Kinna: Oh my gosh! Wow.
Will: And there’s less pressure like osmotically, so then your blood pressure disperses more which would make you’re the standing blood pressure lower in your system.
Tony: But I would expect that to happen being up high. And I would not expect that to happen being upstairs.
Tony: You know, just up in your bedroom being upstairs.
Will: Right. Yeah, I meant like up in the Andes.
Kinna: In a second floor apartment you’re constantly…
Tony: So understand this though, Monty, it doesn’t mean that we’re saying that’s just in your head. The things in your head are creating changes in your physiology in your body. So if you have a fear of that of being up high like that, then it could affect you just as if you were up high.
Kinna: Uh huh. All right. Andrea, mine comes and goes. It can last for up to 3 or 4 weeks then goes again. I find when I bend forward or when I’m lying down or turn over quickly it is at its worst. Feels like my eyes are spinning at 100mph in my head. Such a scary horrible feeling. Also putting my head back would bring it on. Doc prescribed air sickness tabs, but they didn’t work. Not nice.
Tony: Is the doctor not nice?
Kinna: The air sickness tabs not nice or the whole situation?
Will: Well, one thing I would want her to check real quick is this other part about it’s called the orthostatic stress test response. And it’s part of like what we do when we look at blood pressure more carefully. When you lay down take your blood pressure and look at your pulse cause that same little meter also tells you your pulse. And then when you stand up, as you’re standing up, start the meter again and then check what your blood pressure and pulse are and if your pulse changed more than 12 points that’s a really good little indicator that you have some blood pressure electrolyte issues. So if bending over and then standing up is causing it you’d want to look at like maybe it’s the inner ear and something happening in the anatomy, but if you’ve got this thing where your pulse changes more than 12 points from resting to standing you should look at your electrolytes.
Tony: Right, and we do teach how to do that exact test in our FREE course too, but when you do that test you can also look at your systolic number. And if that systolic, which is the top number, does not go up on the standing one that can be an indication that your adrenals are a little tired and maybe they’re being asked to do things that other parts of the body should be handling, but maybe they can’t because of low resources. If adrenals are fatigued that can be part of the problem why blood is not getting to your head as well along with a low blood pressure issue, so it can be both those things.
Will: And before you just jump on like an adrenal stimulator…
Will: Or some sort of an adaptogen, you’d want to look at like why maybe your endocrine system would be fatigued or maybe not fatigued, maybe underactive. So things like if you’re not breaking down protein and creating nitrogen your endocrine system, including your adrenals, is not going to run right.
Tony: It’s kind of pissy because it wants that.
Will: Right, it’s like an engine without gas it’s not going to go anywhere. So don’t blame the adrenals necessarily for them being wrong.
Tony: Good point.
Will: Thinking you need to take adrenal hormone or thyroid hormone. Look at like does my system have the resources it needs to run and if it doesn’t it’s not going to.
Tony: Right and we find that adrenals usually come right back as soon as the body gets the resources that it needs.
Kinna: Judy, from Denver, Colorado. There is a positional cure. Is there? That’s a question. Is there a positional cure? I’ll just change the words around.
Tony: And I think that what she’s talking about is this Epley maneuver thing. And they use this and what they call it is BPPV. Which is Benign Paroxyl speiha;gn;an;vn.(he can’t pronounce)
Kinna: Blah blah blah…easy for you to say.
Tony: It’s like all this long stuff, but they just call it BPPV. So you can look that up too and they’re doing a lot of positional maneuvers for that to try and move those stones around to get them in the right position and that may be what she’s talking about. IF there’s another one, I don’t know it. If it’s a sexual position she’s talking about I don’t know.
Kinna: Oh, hey, I’m willing to try.
Will: I will experiment, but I spent a lot of years as a posture therapist and we would actually see a lot of clients with Vertigo.
Kinna: Tony and I immediately sit up straight.
Will: As I slouch, but uh, we had a lot of success with people in correcting their dizziness and Vertigo. If it is like a rupture in your inner ear this is not going to help. So you got to deal with like whatever you can to fix your inner ear, but a lot of times it’s because your head’s literally on crooked. It’s tilted and we’ll talk about pressures and stuff, but if you look at your posture and your head is like your atlas is like tilted it’s gonna change the like whole coordination orientation that your brain and nervous system has and also where fluids flow in the inner ear and for a lot of people, especially as you get older, your head will start to come forward more and it creates this strain on the muscles on the back of the neck where they’re always holding their head up and they start to shake. And you could imagine how that would make you a little dizzy also. Additionally, I’ve even had clients that just had poor like hip stability. Like they weren’t very balanced in their like muscles used to hold them up like their posture muscles. So they were dizzy when they stood or they felt very unbalanced and would lose their balance and would like need a wall or a chair nearby because they were just really instable on just a base structural muscular level. And when we did some stuff to activate their gait muscles and their posture muscles all of a sudden they felt really grounded and they weren’t shaky at all. And we’ve done stuff to correct the shoulder, hip position, the head position and the head got level again and you know, their balance and stability would come back with that.
Tony: Will has a lot of good information about posture stuff on his website too. So where do they find that, Will?
Will: Yeah, if you go to mybodyofknowledge.net. You can just type in the little search box pain free or even look under the section that says personal training. There’s a section about what ideal posture looks like.
Kinna: It’s on Facebook too.
Will: Yeah, if you go to facebook.com/mybodyofknowledge you can find links to that and there’s lots of videos that can help you work on your alignment or even if you have particular joint pain issues. That’s another big piece of the puzzle is getting your body to be stable.
Tony: Right and when you at Will’s site, wish Kinna a happy birthday there too.
Kinna: Just every place. Just remind me that I’m getting older.
Tony: Just wherever you go…..just find places.
Kinna: Thank you. Vicky, from Edmonds, Washington. My Vertigo is from an inner ear problem.
Tony: Okay, so we know that one. We’re okay with that.
Kinna: We know that one. All right.
Tony: But you know one thing that I want to say about that is that it’s so common that Vertigo can be created from an inner ear issue that a lot of times I have seen people come to me and tell me that their Vertigo is caused by an inner ear issue and yet their blood pressure is 89/60 and when they lift it up a little bit all the sudden that “inner ear issue” improves. So just look at you too just to make sure there’s not something else going on.
Will: Yeah, and when you do look at like inner ear if it was like a ruptured eardrum like you were out intertubing like I one time perforated my eardrum, you have to let that heal or talk to your doctor about what can be done to repair that, but if it is caused by like an inflammation issue or fluid retention that has a ton to do with your body chemistry. If your lymphatic system is congested has a lot to do with it. How strong is your digestion? Are you processing your foods well? Are you retaining electrolytes because of an anabolic/catabolic imbalance or pH imbalance? So learn what all those different points of balance are in your body by going through the digestive issues course and then just work on all of them.
Tony: If they’re out of whack.
Will: Yeah, if they’re out of whack.
Tony: If something is really out of whack then understand that oh, well let’s see if this might be the cause of it.
Kinna: Pat, IMAX theatres make me feel dizzy. Don’t go to IMAX theatres.
Tony: That’s good advice. We help people here. We’re in the business of helping people.
Tony: But I think that’s very common because I’ve been to an IMAX because I’m fancy.
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: I’m real fancy.
Kinna: He only goes to IMAX.
Tony: Only cool people go there, I think, is what I’ve heard. That’s like part of their announcement ahead of time if you start spinning or you’re about to hurl just run outside.
Tony: And nobody ran outside. I was kind of hoping that someone would do it.
Will: They’ll all fall over while they’re running.
Tony: Um, but I don’t have an answer for that.
Kinna: Okay. All right.
Will: Glad we spent three minutes on it.
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: But you have to understand that if you’re a person that deals with motion sickness issues and that kind of dizziness created from low resources then the experience of an IMAX that can make you feel like you’re in motion can contribute to that too.
Kinna: Shawna, from Mesa, Arizona. I do get Vertigo when I’m up on the second floor and can see down. It usually only lasts for one to two days, but when it’s affecting me it really isn’t fun at all. Happens to me my whole life now. I’m sorry, Shawna.
Tony: Uh huh. I’m sorry too. Will, are you sorry?
Will: Hm. Yeah, I’ll be sorry. Sure.
Tony: Okay, cool.
Kinna: We’re all sorry.
Tony: We’re all onboard with that. That was someone else that that is interesting that it is only the second floor that’s creating that and I wonder, she’s talking about that it happens when she can see down. Not that it’s the elevation, but it’s just the seeing down, so again that could be the same situation where some type of fear of heights could be creating a stress to you.
Kinna: Cheryl, I find when I’m working out hard I get dizzy if I kneel down or sit and then get up, but not necessarily too fast. Could it be my glycogen stores are depleted? Is this the cause? Big word.
Tony: I don’t view it that way because when glycogen stores are depleted if your body needs more of that type of fuel it can often just break down tissue to use that. I view the dizziness coming on from more of a lack of minerals and sugar both going low at the same time. So maybe it could be you burning too many sugars all up, but I don’t know that I would view it as glycogen stores being depleted. Would you?
Will: No, I keep trying to think of this metaphor, like if you have like a water balloon. I guess that was like really….
Tony: Can you put a camel in your metaphor?
Kinna: Or OCD in there.
Tony: I just want a camel in it.
Will: So if a camel was carrying a water balloon and it raised its head real quickly, if the water balloon was really full there’s not a lot of space within the water balloon for it to like oscillate and collapse and the fluid slosh around because it’s so full. And that’s like a healthy blood pressure person. There’s a quick response time just cause of the amount of pressure and fluid in the little water balloon, but if it’s not quite full, it can slosh around a lot. If like the camel was juggling the water balloon. It would be sloshing a lot and harder to juggle, so just like a camel would want a well filled water balloon for all the times it’s juggling you’d want enough blood pressure in there to keep that osmotic pressure there so the blood just stays dispersed. And that makes it easier for you heart also, which is why, if you have good electrolyte levels, your heart doesn’t freak out when you stand up. It doesn’t start beating way faster. Just to try to push enough blood to your brain. Same thing when you’re getting up from an exercise whether you’re kneeling or seated or whatever if you have enough osmotic pressure it’ll just disperse well and stay like in your brain and in your muscles.
Tony: So you could be right, Cheryl. The glycogen stores could be affecting that, but I don’t want you to view it that way cause I don’t want you to focus on trying to increase glycogen stores cause there are just so much stores that you get, but if you can increase other mineral things or keep your sugars from spiking and crashing to where they’re more steady then you could improve that situation.
Tony: Water balloon.
Kinna: Deeda, every time I lay down my head spins like I’ve been drinking tequila. And anytime I roll to another position while laying down my head spins again. What causes this? What can I do to stop it?
Tony: And when you look at the stuff about the BPPV you do hear a lot of anecdotal people saying stuff like that and so I wonder if that can be a cause, but in the same way that people can be dealing with motion sickness/low resource type of stuff that can affect that too. Just when you’re changing a position and having blood need to go to another area all of the sudden it can create that panic and low resources in specific parts aren’t going to your brain and you just get dizzier.
Will: Uh huh.
Kinna: Cool. Shayne, from Alcoa, Tennessee. Mine is caused by two things. One, I have chronic sinus stuff 24/7 12 months of the year. Two, I tend to have low blood pressure. Mix those two and some mornings getting ready for work is interesting.
Tony: I wonder what she does? I guess putting pants on you end up on the ground kind of thing?
Kinna: Or her lipstick probably looks horrible.
Tony: Right, poor thing. Cause if someone is really dealing with this is hardcore it really sucks cause like imagine just feeling like so….
Kinna: Being wasted everywhere you go and not being able to stand.
Tony: And not having the fun part of it.
Kinna: Yeah. Exactly.
Will: I mean you think of like the ear, nose and throat doctor like those all go together for a reason cause they’re all connected. So when you look at stuffy sinuses like that’s definitely affecting the pressure in your inner ear. So when you look at like a congested lymphatic system like that can definitely contribute to sensations of Vertigo. You’d want to look at why is my making my lymphatic fluid congested? Usually it’s from proteins that aren’t being broken down well and they get trapped in the lymph nodes. But it can also come from other toxins that your body is just, maybe even healthy foods that your body is not breaking down well, or straight toxins that you’re eating or maybe you’re not moving enough to circulate your lymph well. It could be all those things.
Tony: There could also be some type of infection in your sinuses that antibiotics are not working so well for. There’s you know you can do steps like try some different types of antimicrobials in a neddie pot type of thing and you can look that up. It’s a kind of thing where you put this warm salt water in a little pot and you stick it in your nose and then you pour it in your nose and it drains through all your sinuses. It’s kind of like you’re water boarding yourself. It’s pretty awesome.
Will: That’d be fun to do during a Vertigo spell. I’m sure.
Tony: Yeah, that’d be good times. Drowning.
Kinna: Exactly! While you’re out of balance? Oh God!
Tony: Right, but it’s such an easy step and can be effective for people who have chronic sinus infections if that’s the issue for you.
Kinna: Christine, recently I’ve been experiencing crippling Vertigo while sitting at my desk. While completely still this wave hits me. I don’t even know what’s up and down. I went to my doctor and he says maybe something in your labyrinth. Shrugged me off and called it a day. Should I press my doctor for more answers or is this a dead end that I will have to cope with? Thanks so much.
Will: Well, he sounds like a really good doctor, so I’d go back and ask him.
Tony: He does.
Kinna: What does that even mean something in your labyrinth?
Tony: I’m gonna prescribe you some sorry about your bad luck.
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: In my understanding, from what I remember, it’s part of your inner ear.
Tony: There’s like all these little tubes and stuff in there and I think that’s one of the chunks or something. I don’t know, but I don’t think that you are stuck with it. I never, I never think that really. I always think that….
Kinna: Unless, she actually is on a dead end street.
Kinna: If she’s on a dead end street then she might be on a dead end.
Tony: But Cul-de-sacs can be safe, so that might be good. But I always think there’s something, so the first thing is look at what’s going on with you. Look and see where your blood pressure is and see if that’s an issue. That’s number one and then if it’s not there are doctors who do those eye tests to see if there’s that BPPV issue going on, so I would look into that too. But when you find a doctor that says sorry about your luck, it just may not be in his training, but there’s always someone else who specializes in this or maybe they look at it from a natural point of view that might be able to help you look at some other things.
Kinna: JoJo, this year for the first time ever my sinuses have made me dizzy/Vertigo. At first I didn’t know what was wrong with me I thought I had high blood pressure or something like that or an ear infection. I was very stunned to find it was my sinuses causing all this craziness.
Tony: So I’m okay with that.
Kinna: Back to the ears and the sinuses and all that being….
Will: And then we can also mention something we’ve talked about before when we talked about allergies on a previous episode where if you find yourself in a parasympathetic imbalance you may be dealing with more sort of allergy symptoms like sinus problems, so you might want to check and see like are you tilted that way and if you are you can push yourself to be a little bit more sympathetic or understanding of other people’s problems. What I mean is it’s more in the fight or flight which is the opposite of parasympathetic state. If you can balance that part of your nervous system out then it can maybe relieve some of these sinus issues.
Tony: Right and that may be enough to help.
Kinna: Linda, from Goshen, Indiana. I was in Goshen, Indiana, for a hot second. It’s an interesting place. We shot this little film there. My aunt was having terrible Vertigo and they finally figured out it was from her Diet Coke.
Kinna: Don’t tell Tony cause he loves that I’m sure. Anything with Diet Coke.
Tony: Uh. I’m pretty excited about that little story that just happened right there and that could be a lot of different issues contributing to that. The list would be long.
Kinna: But it’s good she got rid of Diet Coke cause it’s evil. Even though I love the way it tastes.
Tony: Even though they sponsor the show and we still can’t tell people to drink it.
Kinna: Uh huh. That’s how bad it is. They’re our sponsors and we still won’t tell people to drink. Uh, Tammy, Shelbyville, Tennessee. After ruling out everything that can cause Vertigo, sinuses, Lupus, MS, heart, etc. I was sent for hearing and balance testing and my diagnosis is Bilateral Meniere’s disease. We think that’s how it’s said. Meniere’s disease.
Tony: That’s fine. A lot of times that they view this as a build up of fluid in the inner ear and some people say it’s possible to be caused by an infection. One thing that’s very interesting to me, and this is not something that I know it’s just interesting to me, is that they often link this disease with Tinnitus.
Will: Oh yeah.
Tony: And we’ve talked about it on another episode before and Tinnitus is when a person just has a ringing in their ear like all the time or most of the time. And I have seen quite a number of people who were dealing with Tinnitus and I didn’t understand it. I didn’t know why, but they had major digestive issues and when they fixed their digestive issues and the body could actually get resources the ringing just stopped in their head. And it was people that were getting calls in their head all day for no reason. Other people got in an accident. It was like a trauma where it started, but it just stopped. And I still, today, I have no idea why, but I wonder if there’s some link in there that whatever is causing that is also causing some type of fluid build up in your inner ear. I don’t know, but I think if you also poop once a month or have some other digestive issue where you’re burping or bloating or diarrhea or some other major issue it might be worth looking at what happens when I fix digestion.
Kinna: Everything else gets fixed really.
Tony: It can happen.
Kinna: I hate to say it.
Tony: I know you hate to say it.
Kinna: Then like your blood pressure your electrolyte deficiency…all that stuff because even if you’re doing all the right steps if your digestion isn’t working it’s useless. You’re eating healthy for no reason at all.
Tony: Except that it’s fun to chew on.
Kinna: I guess.
Tony: Organic stuff is more fun to chew on.
Tony: Organic food.
Kinna: Oh, okay. I’ll have to see. I don’t know if it’s more fun then like a piece of pizza. I gotta argue with that.
Tony: Yeah, it’s more fun.
Kinna: Oh okay, well you can have organic pizza I guess at the end of the day. So yeah, it’s all about digestion. Amber, from Clare, Michigan. Can I be the president of this club too? Sometimes after heavy lifting and cardio I get dizzy, usually after I work with my trainer. Sometimes Gatorade helps. Other times I just curl up on the floor and take a nap. They frown on that though. Why does exercise make me experience these things? Amber, from Kinna’s closet. That’s scary.
Tony: That is kind of scary. I really think that one day you’re going to find Amber in your closet.
Kinna: Yeah, I’m going to open my closet door and be like, Oh my God, there’s Amber! She’ll be in a kilt and lifting something heavy.
Tony: Right. She’s funny.
Tony: Um, so look at what Gatorade is. I mean first of all it’s just sugar, but it’s also electrolytes cause that’s what they’re all about, so if that’s helping you then you know that it’s likely a low electrolyte and sugars going to low issue, but that doesn’t mean that Gatorade is the answer.
Tony: Criminy Pete, Amber!
Kinna: Gatorade is also another sponsor and we won’t even, you know, give them a plug.
Tony: Uh huh. I wonder what’s going to happen if we ever have an actual sponsor?
Kinna: Yeah, digestion, could be our sponsor.
Tony: Toilet paper should be our sponsor.
Tony: They should sponsor this show. Um, okay, so bring us home, Will. So if people are spinning around, and it sucks so much, but what should be their first step to just try and find some kind of relief?
Will: Yeah, so the first thing they should look at their blood pressure and if it’s low take the steps that we talk about of how to fix that in the digestive issues course for fixing electrolyte deficient imbalance. That’s number one and then number two, I’d say is look at the other aspects of your body chemistry. Like if you’re fast or a slow oxidizer are you stuck in the sympathetic or parasympathetic state or even pH imbalances those can all kind of contribute to feeling dizzy and out of it and spacey. And then lastly, look at your body position and your posture and make sure your head’s on straight.
Tony: You know what one other thing that we totally forgot to mention is you know that potassium is a big deal in this effort for signals to travel. It kind of closes that loop where the body will say this is what happened or the brain will say to the body do this and then the body will say this is what happened, but the this is what happened doesn’t make it back to the brain if there’s not enough potassium. And that doesn’t mean that you need to supplement potassium, but if your digestion isn’t working well you won’t be able to pull potassium out of the food and then you can be low and that can be causing a lot of these issues too. So that’s a super big deal. The other thing to look at is it might be worth finding a doctor who understands how to do the test for BPPV and you can google all that stuff and find a lot of information. That’s not something that we know a lot about, but since it’s common enough to probably account for you know 20-30% of the major cases out there it might be worth looking into especially if your blood pressure is not super low. Um, so I think those are the main steps that you want to look at to see if you can find answers. So, if you found something here that helps you then give us a review on iTunes and be like oh, that was fun, that was jazzy or why didn’t he shut up about or happy birthday, Kinna. Just put something in there.
Kinna: Exactly. And if you hate us then just, you know, don’t say anything.
Tony: Then be quiet. Yeah, be quiet, but do tune in again.
Kinna: Yeah. Yeah, cause we might say something that you like.
Tony: Cause there’s got to be something. Why are you still listening? That seems weird.
Kinna: I’ll try to stop being so annoying. It’s not going to probably happen, but I can lessen it a little.
Tony: I gave up trying on me.
Kinna: I know. He’s been trying for seven years. Um, if you want to learn more about how to look at your chemistry and learn about your digestion, you can read any of Tony’s books or take the FREE 4 week digestion course at kickitinthenuts.com. Also go over and check out mybodyofknowledge.net on Will and yeah, that’s about it and tune in next week for our next topic, which I don’t know what it will be, but it’ll be something.
Tony: There will be a camel in there.
Kinna: Uh huh, there will be a camel with OCD.
Tony: Happy birthday to you.
Kinna: Aw…thanks, boys.
Tony: Happy birthday…and fade out.
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