Kick It Naturally – Seasonal Allergies and Asthma

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T.C. Hale is not a doctor and does not claim to be a doctor, licensed in any type of medical field. Don’t be an idiot and use anything heard on this show as medical advice. This information should be used for educational purposes only and you should contact your doctor for any medical advice. Now get off me.

 

Kinna:         Welcome to Kick it Naturally. I’m Kinna McInroe and…

 

Tony:          She’s Kinna! Woohooo!

 

Kinna:         Woohoo! And I’m here with T.C. Hale; author, natural health expert, producer and chat box.

 

Tony:         T.C. Wooooo! Chat box! I’m chatty.

 

Kinna:         He’s Chatty McCathy. And today we also have our Will, Hottie Patottie.

 

Will:         Hi.

 

Kinna:         How are you?

 

Will:         Good.

 

Kinna:         Good.

 

Tony:         Will Schmidt, Woo woo!

 

Kinna:         Will Schmidt. Yeah he’s got a, go on over to My Body of Work, no…

 

Will:         Knowledge. Whoa.

 

Kinna:         Yeah, that’s it. My Body of Knowledge.

 

Will:         Keep your mind on the show.

 

Kinna:         Alright, alright. Today all of our listeners can get a free audio book from Audible.com. Just go to KickItInTheNuts.com/audiobook for all the details. So today what we’re going to be talking about allergies and asthma.

 

Tony:         Yeah.

 

Kinna:         Those are two like annoying things to go on.

 

Tony:         Right. And some people will be like “why, why are you talking about those together?” We’ll explain why we put them in the same show.

 

Kinna:         They both start with “A’s.”

 

Tony:         Yeah. We’re doing them alphabetical.

 

Kinna:         Okay, cool.

 

Tony:         We’re going alphabetically.

 

Kinna:         That’s what I would have guessed. Now if you haven’t liked us yet on Facebook then what is your problem? Come on, everybody else…

 

Tony:         All the cool kids like us.

 

Kinna:         Yeah. They all like us. So go ahead and pull over and like us at Kick it in the Nuts. And then we’ll post topics every single week on future shows and you guys can post questions you want us to cover on the show and you know they may or may not answer it. But they’ll try.

 

Tony:         Right. And, and we’ve done a lot of shows now. We’ve covered a lot of topics.

 

Kinna:         This is our 21^st episode.

 

Tony:         Wow!

 

Will:         Now we’re just making up stuff.

 

Tony:         That’s fantastic!

 

Kinna:         We should have some kind, type of contest.

 

Will:         Or a prize we give ourselves.

Kinna:         A prize, yeah. You can win a date with Will.

 

Tony:         Right. That’s good.

 

Kinna:         Or T.C.

 

Tony:         Yeah. We won’t ask Will about it; we’ll just do that.

 

Kinna:         We’ll just set it up.

 

Tony:         And if you’re listening to us on the Terry James Alive network you can hear our previous shows on iTunes or on Stitcher. And if you’re hearing us on iTunes or Stitcher then you can hear our newest show every week on the Terry James Alive network.

 

Kinna:         Alright. So there’s a lot of places to listen to us.

 

Tony:         Just listen, you’ll hear us.

 

Kinna:         Exactly.

 

Tony:         Just start listening to stuff.

 

Kinna:         Seek and he shall find, people. Knock and the door shall be opened.

 

Tony:         It’ll be open. So we’re going to talk about allergies and asthma today. So to kinda introduce this a little bit I’m going to have Will explain allergies and asthma. Nah, I’m going to have him explain the parasympathetic state and the sympathetic state, and the difference between them.

 

Will:         With my fun equation?

 

Tony:         We’ll, we’ll get to the easy part of the fun equation.

 

Kinna:         I’m unsympathetic today. I’m not very sympathetic.

 

Tony:         You’re not sympathetic today?

 

Kinna:         No.

 

Tony:         It’s probably going to be different than what you’re thinking; but it’s okay.

 

Will:         Yeah.

 

Kinna:         Alright.

 

Will:         Well first let me just clarify when we talk about allergies. We have a whole different podcast episode on food sensitivities which people should listen to if you think you have like food allergies or something like that. We talk more in depth about that on the food sensitivities thing where we say it’s basically having a lot to do with either poor digestion or some rare lectin allergy kinda thing.

 

Tony:         Sure.

 

Will:         But when we’re talking allergies in this show I believe we’re going to be talking more about the seasonal things, dust, that kind of thing.

 

Tony:         Seasonal and pet allergies, stuff like that.

 

Will:         Right. And then, yeah. And how they’re, allergies and asthma can both really be related to imbalances in the autonomic nervous system.

 

Tony:         So break it down one time would ya?

 

Will:         Alright! So the equation thing or the…?

 

Tony:          No. The difference between the parasympathetic and sympathetic state.

 

Will:         Yeah. So sympathetic state is when you feel really bad for everybody when they fall down.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         No.

 

Tony:         He used your, he used your explanation, Kinna.
Kinna:         I know, I know.

 

Will:         The sympathetic state’s the fight or flight state when your body has a perceived threat of emergency that’s around there.

 

Kinna:         Or you’re about to get on a plane.

 

Will:         Right. Which can happen from like if you’re a slow oxidizer your nervous system might put you into the flight or fight, sympathetic state all the time to try to speed your carbohydrate metabolism. Or you could be in the opposite issue of you could be a fast oxidizer and your nervous system might act the opposite way. And you might more frequently be stuck in the parasympathetic, or the rest and digest state.

 

Kinna:         I have one question. How did we all get so screwed up in the first place?

 

Tony:         We’re whacked.

 

Kinna:         Like cavemen, did they have all these imbalances?

 

Will:         Blame your parents.

 

Tony:         I think it, I think it’s because of Family Feud.

 

Kinna:         Oh, okay.

 

Tony:         Wasn’t that Richard Dawson.

 

Kinna:         Dawson. Uh huh.

 

Tony:         I think he kissed too many people on that show.

 

Kinna:         Yeah. He gave too many herpes away.

 

Tony:         Yeah. That’s probably what it was. And we have a herpes episode too if you guys want to listen to that and more about Richard Dawson. That’s not, that’s not true. But it probably was not that show. I used to like that show so I don’t want to blame Family Feud. Survey says…

 

Kinna:         Buzzzzzzzz

 

Tony:         Go ahead and explain the things better, Will. Sorry.

 

Will:         Right. So if you are stuck in the parasympathetic state it’s going to make you way more prone to having allergies. There, there is a fancy little equation I’ll talk about it in a second. But there’s a couple little things you can just look at in your own chemistry, like, or in your own physiology. Like if your hands are like always warmer than your upper arm like your tricep that’s a little indication that you might be in a parasympathetic imbalance. As well as if your pupils are always kinda like smaller rather than larger than most peoples. That’s another little indicator that you might be in a parasympathetic state. But a lot of people will take an allergy medication that pushes their nervous system into a fight or flight or sympathetic state and then boom, all the sudden they don’t have allergies. And they’re like “oh awesome.”

 

Tony:         Right. So that’s kinda where these, it’s not a definitive thing of “allergies is caused by a parasympathetic state.” It’s just a situation where you’re going to see people living in that state more often when they have seasonal allergy issues and also when they have asthma. So it’s a good thing to look at and it’s easy to figure out for yourself just by looking at blood pressure and a couple things. So if you can look at that and see that “man, I appear to be very parasympathetic. And I do have allergies or I do have asthma,” then you can take steps to improve that imbalance and it will often improve the allergies or the asthma for you as well.

 

Will:         Yeah. And I’ll just say it real quick as simply as possible one more time this equation. So if you learn how to take your blood pressure which you can do through our, our little free course on correcting digestive issues at KickItInTheNuts.com. It’ll teach you how to do all these self-tests. So if you do your blood pressure and take your breath rate which is just count how many times you breathe in a minute. Then you do this; you subtract the systolic by the diastolic pressure. The top number by the bottom number which gives you this pulse differential. Divide that by the number of breaths that you take in a minute and it gives you a number. If that number’s less than 2 you’re probably in a parasympathetic imbalance. If that number is more than 3 you’re in the opposite fight or flight, sympathetic imbalance.

 

Tony:         And don’t try to do this while you’re driving down the road right now.

 

Will:         No.

 

Tony:         But let’s say that you do have a blood pressure cuff, or maybe your uncle has it because he’s on high blood pressure meds and his doctor makes him check it. Or you just swing by the pharmacy and they have that big sit down thing and you’re like, it looks like a kids ride. But if you just get in it and you take your blood pressure you’ll get a number. So we have those formulas in our course and you can look and see how to do that for free. But another, another formula you can look at too is just take the top number and subtract the bottom number from that. And if that number is less than 37 that’s another indication that you could be overly parasympathetic as well. So there’s a lot of ways that you can look at yourself and see does this, is this imbalance very obvious to me. And if so then I should take some steps about improving it.

 

Will:         Yeah. And the kind of tricky part about it is you can push your nervous system around directly like through allergy meds or even like a cup of coffee could push you more into fight or flight or sympathetic state. But you’d want to look at like the more holistic balanced way to do that would be to look at the aspects of your metabolism and your digestion that are causing you to be stuck in the parasympathetic or sympathetic state. So a lot of times people are mistakenly thinking that oh it’s just their nervous system is off and they need to tweak that, or their adrenals are off and they need to fix that.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         But it’s actually a very complex system that your body is trying to keep in balance with all these counter measures. So you want to get the whole picture of what’s in and out of balance as a whole. And all the different imbalances that we talk about and the digestive aspects that we look at and when you pull all that together your nervous system will usually balance itself out.

 

Tony:         Right. And both states are okay. You know we move into both states throughout the day as needed, as the body finds necessary. But people can get stuck in one state. So you want to check your blood pressure you know at least two hours after a meal when you’re simmered down and there’s not craziness. If somebody just came up behind you and scared you and you pooped your pants, that’s not when you want to check your blood pressure. That’s going to probably show a more of a flight or fight or, it’s actually know as flight or fight or poop your pants state.

 

Will:         Yeah.

 

Tony:         So you don’t want to be in that type of state. You want to be simmered down.

 

Will:         Unless you’re constipated.

 

Tony:         Right. Then that’s good news.

 

Will:         “Will you come and scare me?”

 

Kinna:         What is the difference between hay fever and allergies?

 

Tony:         Spelling. You know I think that it can depend on, you know cause the, when you at seasonal allergies there’s a kazillion different things that we can be allergic to. So it can have to do with what you’re allergic to. But the main thing that we want to explain here is that if you’re in this overly sympathetic state it kinda pushes you into this over sensitive, over reactive situation. And that’s why these allergies can really flare up in that state. And the level at which you are pushed into a parasympathetic state can vary. And that can dictate the severity of your allergies as well. So we’ll talk about that with asthma a little bit too and that’ll make a little more sense there. But we have a lot of questions so why don’t we start kinda getting into some questions and then we’ll hit on this a little bit more.

 

Kinna:         Elaine from Los Angeles, California, “Can allergies get worse or weirdly come on as you get older?”

 

Tony:         No! Next question.

 

Kinna:         Alright. Nina from North Hollywood…

 

Tony:         Hold on a second.

 

Will:         Yeah. They can definitely get worse. And I look at, I look at this condition kinda like I look at like joint pain. Like oh, you just get joint pain as you get older. You just get bad ankle.

 

Tony:         Right, right. Cause everybody else does. That’s just how it works.

 

Will:         But it’s more, it’s more often the case that it’s just an imbalance. That it keeps increasing over time because of some either problem with digestion or faulty diet pattern that you got going.

 

Tony:         Something that you’re doing to exacerbate it. Sure.

 

Will:         Right. So you, your adaptive capacity or ability to deal with the stuff around you gets lower and lower the more imbalanced you get. And if you’ve got an imbalancing pattern you just take, add more and more time to it the more and more imbalanced you get, the more and more susceptible you are and more symptoms you have.

 

Tony:         And here’s one thing that’s, this is just an interesting thought of mine, it’s not a fact or anything. I don’t think anything I say is ever a fact.

 

Kinna:         Wait. Is anything?

 

Will:         I wouldn’t, I would not accuse you of that.

 

Tony:         Right. So, but the, the parasympathetic is the rest and digest state of our autonomic nervous system. So if a person is having some digestive insufficiencies, maybe they can’t make a lot of hydrochloric acid. Maybe they don’t have proper bile flow where they can’t really sizzle the food and break it apart and pull everything out of it. If that’s the case, if their digestion is weak I kinda view it as the body is trying to push them as far into that rest and digest state as it can get to just to help boost digestion any way it can and the person can kinda get stuck in that state. So if you can improve digestion, and we teach people how to do that in our free course, all the sudden the body doesn’t need to gear itself up for digestion it can just happen like it’s supposed to. And sometimes that can be why these people are so stuck there is because their digestion is so poor. I don’t know.

 

Will:         Yeah.

 

Kinna:         Nina from North Hollywood, California, “why are cats the absolute worst for my allergies? Why does that trigger my asthma so bad?”

 

Tony:         It might be because a cat is not a real pet. I’m just kidding.

 

Will:         It would like you if it was a real pet. It would like you.

 

Tony:         I’m going to get so many letters tomorrow. It’s going to be a good time.

 

Kinna:         All the cat lovers.

 

Tony:         Right. No, I’ve had cats. They can be good, but they do poop in a box and I don’t want that to happen in my house. But I, I think that that’s just a situation where a person has more of an allergy to that situation. You remember different people are going to be affected by different things. And a person that’s allergic to cats might not be allergic to dust or hay.

 

Kinna:         We’re all snowflakes.

 

Tony:         Right. We’re fancy snowflakes. But it is common so there may be an issue that the dander of cats is stronger or something about them licking themselves. I don’t know how all that works but it’s frequent.

 

Will:         Yeah. And I also don’t want to discount like there are like real toxins in our house that can exist that whether you’re in a parasympathetic or sympathetic state can be just bad to have. If there’s like asbestos just like in your ceiling or something.

 

Tony:         Mold, yeah.

 

Kinna:         Or what if it was something in the kitty litter.

 

Will:         Sure.

 

Kinna:         You know what I mean because cats have kitty litter. Maybe they’re allergic to something in there.

 

Will:         Or if the cat’s like huffing paint, you know it could be the fumes.

 

Tony:         But I do know a lot of people that if they walk by a cat they’re screwed for the rest of the day.

 

Will:         Yeah.

 

Tony:         And it’s like you know it’s not that cats are evil. Nina doesn’t believe that.

 

Kinna:         Awe. I love kitties.

 

Will:         A black cat actually crossed my path when I was coming in here last week. It was pretty.

 

Kinna:         Now some kitties are really cool when they’re, when they’re really loving. I don’t like the cats that don’t want to have anything to do with you. Why have a cat then?

 

Tony:         Right. I used to have a cat that was like a dog in that it would play fetch and also you could sit there and you would pet it while you’re watching TV and as soon as you stopped petting it, it would bite you. Full on, full on attack you and be pissed that you’re not, and that was kinda fun cause it was like you know, you know.

 

Kinna:         Yeah, yeah. A little love bit.

 

Tony:         Anyways so I don’t know a way to fix a specific cat allergy but what you can do is you can push yourself less in that sympathetic/parasympathetic imbalance and a lot of times that will improve almost any allergy.

 

Kinna:         Maybe if you wrap your cat in like saran wrap or something like that and then you won’t have the dander.

 

Tony:         That’s a great idea. That’s a useful tip.

 

Kinna:         Yeah.

 

Tony:         See, we’re here to help.

 

Kinna:         That’s right. Or put a cat in a bathtub. See how that goes. Yeah, they love that. Fred from Austin, Texas, “why are my allergies completely brutal in the spring for some years and some years I don’t have it at all? Isn’t that weird?”

 

Will:         Totally weird.

 

Kinna:         Fred that’s, that’s weird.

 

Will:         I say like, like I just hear one of our mentors words echo in my mouth right now which he just says like, “what are your numbers?” You know, look at your chemistry.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         Like is it really the spring time that’s different or is it, is it your body that’s receiving all these pollens and dust in a different state. You know?

 

Tony:         Right. Yeah and spring is the time where there is more pollen but your body still has to be in that state where it’s going to be over reactive and over sensitive to that. So it’s easy to see like some years you may not be as parasympathetic as others.

 

Kinna:         Cause the seasons are just like us; they’re snowflakes.

 

Tony:         They’re snowflakes. That’s very pretty today.

 

Kinna:         Kelsey from Grandblank, Michigan, “why do allergies cause my tinnitus and vertigo to flair up? It’s miserable.

 

Tony:         Well I don’t, I don’t think they do. And I’ve been wrong before. I can’t remember when it happened. But it was probably a long time ago.

Kinna:         Don’t get me started. I’ll pull my list up. I’ve made a document.

 

Tony:         Good, good. I’m going to need that. But what I view it as is the things that cause vertigo and tinnitus can also cause someone to be in more of a parasympathetic state. So it may not be that the allergies are causing these issues. It’s just they may all flare up at a similar time. And I, I don’t know the cause of tinnitus but this is very freaky to me. That I’ve had four different clients with tinnitus and if you don’t know what it is, it’s this ringing in your ear like all the time. And I’m like “it just rings in your ears all the time?” And they’re like “yeah, all the time.” I’m like “so the phone is always ringing?” They’re like “yes.”

 

Kinna:         Yeah. They’re like constantly picking up the phone everywhere they go.

 

Tony:         And I’m like “how are you not punching me in the face right now?”

 

Will:         Yeah. That’s annoying.

 

Tony:         But here’s what I’ve seen with four different clients, they all had digestive issues or they weren’t digesting well. And they did work to improve their digestion and it just stopped. So I have read where it can be a circulatory issue that’s causing it. And if your bile is not flowing that can get a lot of junk backed up and cause circulatory problems. So that, that could be a thing. But my advice would be let’s, let’s see what your digestion is like and let’s see what improving it does to that.

 

Kinna:         Or you might have a little fairy in your ear with a bell.

 

Tony:         You could, yeah. You never know. I don’t want to rule that out. Will, do you want to talk about vertigo a little bit.

 

Will:         Yeah. I mean there, there are different causes of vertigo and there’s, you gotta look at like what are the balance mechanisms in the body. One of the most important ones being like the fluid in the ear. And if there’s any sort of like inflammation or even lymphatic congestion that could cause like there to be pressure changes in the ear chamber that can kinda throw off your sense of balance and make you feel like dizzy and nauseas. And it can also cause tinnitus, that whole ringing through the compression that happens. Like it’s all a mechanical thing actually. So you’d want to look at like is my lymphatic system clear, is my bile flowing well? And a lot of that ties back down into am I breaking down proteins well? Cause protein is one of the main things that can congest the lymphatic system. So I had a client who was a typical sort of skinny model girl with very low blood pressure and her lymphatic fluid or the MS of her saliva was, showed really great congestion. And she had this constant annoyance of like it felt like was water in her ear, there’s ringing, and she was dizzy, and tired and stuff all of the time. And once we got her lymphatic system cleared out and improved her protein metabolism that stuff went away.

 

Tony:         And another thing to look at is especially with low blood pressure is that signals travel through these minerals. And a lot of times there’s not enough minerals for signals to travel. Signals can be sent but they can’t make it all the way back and that can cause dizzy spells and stuff like that too. And you know when you look at this parasympathetic state, when you look at the formulas that me and Will were talking about you’ll see that when a blood pressure is very low, like when the systolic is under 100 odds are pretty great that in that formula you’re probably going to be parasympathetic because that pulse pressure, the difference between the top number and the bottom number is going to be low in most cases. So you see a lot of people with low blood pressure, digestive issues, inability to pull minerals out of food you see them in the parasympathetic state a lot. And so all these things can kinda make sense with Kelsey in that regard.

 

Kinna:         Alright Fawaz from Ferok, Kerala, India. We’re big over in India.

 

Tony:         Man, we’re international.

 

 

Kinna:         “Why do allergies cause breathing difficulty and whistle?” Yeah, yeah that whole, that little whistle sound.

 

Tony:         So let’s talk about asthma so that, to get into this and again when we look at someone with a parasympathetic imbalance, if someone has a parasympathetic imbalance that doesn’t mean they have asthma. But when you see a client with asthma they’re almost always in a parasympathetic imbalance. And what happens is the system is in that over sensitive, over reactive state and it causes the vagus nerve to be in a very over reactive state. And so a lot of times it’s causing this extra firing impulses into the brachial tubes which can cause constriction and it can also cause increase mucus secretion in the lungs as well. So this is kinda where the story of asthma comes about. And for asthma to happen you need two things; there needs to be a person in an overly parasympathetic state where that vagus nerve is over reactive, and then there has to be some other kinda trigger. And the other trigger can be almost anything. Where it can be you know even just an allergy or bronchial infection, or stress from exercise, or even just stress or another imbalance, the weather. All these things can, can affect, can be that extra trigger that a person needs to where that vagus nerve is going to be even over reactive. So that could be what’s going on with Fawaz, by the way that is an awesome name.

 

Kinna:         Fawaz.

 

Tony:         Fawaz.

 

Will:         Which is also like another reason why a lot of times like kids grow out of asthma.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         As you talked about before the digestive system isn’t really that powerful until we kind of reach adolescence. And because of that people are more in the parasympathetic trying to digest their food state more often so they’re more prone to having asthma and allergies. And then when their digestion is strong they’re just not in a parasympathetic state anymore. So it’s kinda faded.

 

Tony:         Right. So Fawaz could be kinda experiencing a low level of asthma like a, like a asthma mini.

 

Will:         Asthmamyosis?

 

Tony:         Sure.

 

Will:         Sure. I don’t know. But, so that could be what’s going on and why you’re experiencing both of those things together.

 

Kinna:         Cool.

 

Tony:         Fawaz.

 

Kinna:         Fawaz.

 

Tony:         I wonder if we’re saying that right. But if we’re not that’s how we’re going to say it from now on.

 

Kinna:         I don’t know. I think so.

 

Will:         You know that whole “Whaaaaz up Fawaz!” Maybe that’s the Indian version.

 

Kinna:         What’s up! Tinashe, I hope we’re saying this right from Harare, Zimbabwe, we are international, we are reaching out.

 

Will:         Wow.

 

Tony:         What’s going on?

 

Kinna:         “In cold or rain season my father’s asthma level rises that it becomes life threatening. Finding it difficult to breath he uses an inhaler and tablets. But this problem has been with him for many years now. We are finding no joy because of his condition. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.” Awe they’re very grateful over there.

 

Will:         Wow. Let’s get more Zimbabwe listeners.

 

Kinna:         Yeah.

 

Tony:         You know it’s a couple of things where that the colder weather or rainy weather I think she says you know that could be the extra trigger. But at the same time the atmosphere changes in that type of weather. And, and that rainy weather can push us to be more anabolic which could change other things, the way that our body’s running.

 

Kinna:         Oh well maybe I’m more anabolic today since we had rain.

 

Tony:         Yeah. Way to go. Good job. So you know there’s other factors about an anabolic imbalance that could be magnifying things as well. But if your dad was able to look at his stuff, his numbers, look at his…If your dad was able to look at his physiology and say okay, I am in a parasympathetic state he may be able to do some things to pull himself out of that so that when the weather is colder or more rainy it won’t be so magnifying and even life threatening.

 

Kinna:         So tell your dad to check his stuff.

 

Tony:         Check his stuff.

 

Will:         And again, these are all connected. Like you could primarily be in the parasympathetic state because you’re primarily a fast oxidizer because you’re anabolic, because you’re stomach acid is weak. Like they’re all connected. So don’t just think Oh I’m just going to push myself to be more sympathetic by drinking coffee or whatever.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         You want to look at the whole system.

 

Tony:         And a lot of times when someone is dealing with something like this where the reaction to something is so severe. When they look at their stuff, and look at their physiology they usually see something that’s like oh, that’s way off. That’s not even close. And, and then that’s a good confirmation of okay, there’s something going on and I can do something to work on that.

 

Kinna:         And if they don’t want to look at their own stuff maybe somebody else will look at their stuff for them.

 

Tony:         Yeah. It’s good.

 

Kinna:         Molly from Las Vegas, Nevada, “I have been using liquid chlorophyll and colloidal silver drops in my saline netty pot mix for a nasal rinse and have cut my seasonal allergy medication and take annually by slightly under 96%.”

 

Will:         So 95.5%?

 

Kinna:         Yes. “No longer daily or even weekly while healing my digestive track and processes with probiotics and mindful eating. Previously severely allergic with year round seasonal allergies 365 days a year. My question, were the antibiotics I’ve taken in the past most likely to blame for onset of allergies, ruining my immune system by killing off the gut flora over time? I rarely get flu, I rarely get flu,” is this shots now?

 

Tony:         No. She rarely gets the flu now.

 

Kinna:         Oh. Okay. “I rarely get the flu now for a year plus since beginning nasal rinse. It shortens duration.”

 

Tony:         I like that Molly is very accurate with the percentage of mediation she has reduced.

 

Kinna:         She has, she has checked her numbers.

 

Tony:         Yeah, yeah. She’s keeping track of some stuff.

 

Kinna:         Yeah. She likes her stuff.

 

Tony:         So one good thing about colloidal silver and I don’t know if chlorophyll is the same but colloidal silver kills bacteria. So if you’re using that in a netty pot, if you don’t know what a netty pot is you put like warm water and like saline solution or salt. You know a type of salt.

 

Kinna:         Pour it in your nose.

 

Tony:         And then you pour it in one nostril so it comes out the other nostril. So it kinda goes through that whole nasal passage and kinda cleans. It’s kinda like you’re water boarding yourself.

 

Kinna:         Yeah. And be careful if you go to a friends house you don’t mistake it for like a hot tea thing.

Tony:         Right. Yeah.

 

Kinna:         Cause then you’re drinking their snot.

 

Tony:         Yeah. That’s gross. But it can be very affective. And so it sounds like you know if there’s, if there’s things that trigger us when we’re in the overly parasympathetic state there still has to be something that triggers an allergy. So if she’s taking steps to get rid of things like that that could be causing that, that would help that a lot even if she is still stuck in a parasympathetic state. But do you want to talk about the antibiotics?

 

Will:         Yeah. I mean it is definitely important to have healthy flora in your system. So I’m not going to say that that part doesn’t matter. And yes I would think antibiotics could screw you up in some ways by damaging that whole little internal ecosystem.

 

Tony:         Sure.

 

Will:         Cause they’re important in breaking down your food further and having your food occur more to your body as nutrition rather than toxins. So yeah they possibly could have left you worse, the antibiotics could have left you worse off. And I really like the idea of using colloidal silver. I used to nebulize with it which is where you like breathe in a mist of colloidal silver. And other things really great ways to get this sort of like secondary immune system in your body with like the colloidal silver, little like particles floating through. You don’t want to overdue it because people can get angina where they turn silver from having too much silver.

 

Kinna:         Oh gosh.

 

Will:         Have you ever seen that? They turn blue. Check it on youtube. Check out silver angina.

 

Kinna:         Oh wow.

 

Will:         Right. And staying away from the words.

 

Tony:         Make sure you spell it correctly when you’re youtubing.

 

Kinna:         Alright. Okay.

 

Tony:         Or you’ll get a whole new set of ads.

 

Will:         But, but and colloidal silver is incredible of what it can do. Sorta like healing burns and as antibiotic properties.

 

Tony:         But. And I don’t know that I view that as the antibiotics were the cause of allergies. But it certainly could cause problems in the body that could lead to that direction for sure. And it’s always good anytime you use antibiotics you always want to be sure that you’re going to replenish that with some type of probiotics afterwards if you feel like you have to use an antibiotic for something.

 

Kinna:         Okay. Robert from Highsprings, Florida, “Calcium and Bio-C didn’t help much. Been sneezing for four weeks now. Help!”

 

Tony:         Sounds like Robert might have listen to our Cold and Flu podcast and applied that to allergies.

 

Will:         Yeah, yeah. Well allergies are not the same thing as a virus. So if you’re using, listening to the Cold and Flu podcast and we’re talking all about needing calcium at the tissue level and vitamin C in the membranes then that is helpful information if you’re dealing with a viral problem like a common cold.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         But allergies are a totally different thing.

 

Tony:         So it won’t help at all. So Robert look at your, look at your blood pressure and let’s see where that pulse pressure is. See if you look like you’re more parasympathetic. And if that’s the issue then you can take some steps to move to the other direction. Do you want to talk about maybe some of the things that people try to do to push themselves more sympathetic?

 

Will:         Yeah. So one of the reasons people can be stuck in the parasympathetic state, like you talked about already, like if their digestion is not strong and their body is trying to spend more time allocating resources and energetic processes to that. So you want to first fix your digestion. The second thing is if you are a fast oxidizer like if you’re burning through carbs too quickly…

 

Tony:         And to understand that you could look at your breath rate.

 

Will:         Yeah.

 

Tony:         And what kind of breath rate would you consider to be a fast oxidizer?

 

Will:         Right. Ideal is 15-16. So if you’re like over 17, like if you’re taking 18 breaths a minute or more than that I’d say yeah, you’re probably a fast oxidizer.

 

Tony:         And we’re talking about just inhales. Don’t count inhales and exhales.

 

Will:         Right. Just, right over the course of a minute.

 

Tony:         And it’s not a contest. Don’t like see how fast or how many you can…You want to breath normally. And just like you normally do.

 

Will:         Right. So if you are a fast oxidizer your nervous system is going to be working to slow that oxidation speed. And that’s what the parasympathetic state does. Just the opposite of like a diabetic whose nervous system pushes them into the sympathetic state. Your body is trying to regulate that stream of glucose metabolism. So you’d want to take steps to try to fix the fast oxidizer imbalance which would be avoiding foods that are like high glycemic sugars, liquid sugars. And emphasizing really like grounding proteins which are high in purines. So like darker meats and oilier fish and eggs and such.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         Those foods with digestive support can help your, your metabolism shift out of that fast oxidizer imbalance. And that can allow your nervous system to go back to a more regular zone.

 

Tony:         Right. And there’s also, there’s supplements that you can get even at any local store to, that can help push a person a little less parasympathetic. But you really need to know where your other numbers are so that you’re not exacerbating another imbalance. And, and we teach how to do that in the course too. You can figure out you know if you’re dealing with some other imbalance. But if you want to cheat and make things a little bit easier there are ways to do that with supplements.

 

Will:         Sure. Like one of the things we use a lot of the time is a supplement that regulates breath rate called Choline Max. Like if you do have a really fast breath rate, that’s usually a good call because it can alkalize your blood stream and slow your breath rate a bit. And that will change that whole equation because you divide your pulse differential by your breath rate to give you that number to help understand where your nervous system is at. So that might be a good call. But you’d want to talk to a heath coach before you start using Choline Max to make sure it’s right for you.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Kinna:         Jake from Greenville, South Carolina, “why do I get a massive sore throat now during allergy season instead of itchy eyes and sneezing like I used to? I mowed the grass Monday and within an hour I felt like I had strep throat. Still here today.”

 

Tony:         Yeah. And Jake I appreciate you mowing the grass too.

 

Kinna:         I have some grass he can mow. I didn’t. I have some grass in the backyard that he can mow.

 

Tony:         What’s wrong with you? Will, come on.

 

Will:         Okay.

 

Tony:         Do you, do you have an opinion on his, on his, on his sore throat there?

 

Will:         You know I, I don’t know specifically what’s going on with why that would shift from one place to another. Like what’s different in his chemistry, what’s different in the air, in the environment during that season for him. I would just go back to looking at his numbers and being like whatever it is are you stuck in this parasympathetic state? Or is it more lymphatic congestion?

 

Tony:         That’s what my thought was. Could it be some kind of lymphatic congestion that would cause it to feel like that in your throat. And, and who knows. But there’s things you could do to you know jumping rope is really good for lymphatic movement, or jumping on those little mini tramp things. Because we don’t have a pump that moves our lymph fluid.

 

Will:         Right.

 

Tony:         You have to like move to get it to flow.

 

Will:         Yeah.

 

Kinna:         You could also get some fake grass.

 

Tony:         Yeah. And when he mows that it won’t.

 

Will:         No more grass comments for Kinna.

 

Tony:         You’re, but you’re fixing problems. You’re a solution.

 

Kinna:         That’s right.

 

Will:         But that is an important thing people may not be aware of like your lymphatic system doesn’t have a heart to pump it and it really only moves with that oscillation. So anything where you’re bouncing like jumping on a trampoline, or jogging, or jumping rope, Kinna. Whatever it is will help your lymphatic system to move but you want to look even deeper than that also. And be like why is my lymph congested in the first place?

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Will:         And that usually goes back to digestion.

 

Kinna:         Preach. You gotta know it.

 

Tony:         We got time for one more question before we wrap it up.

 

Kinna:         Kelley from Elkins, West Virginia, “what natural treatments are the most effective. Historically I’ve had to take two Zyrtec daily to alleviate 70% of my symptoms. And since learning how meds can damage my body I do not wish to do that this year. Also I am curious how we develop these allergies. I only started being allergic in the last 10 years or so. And is it something that we can be, that can be reversed?”

 

Tony:         Yes, yes, no, yes, no.

 

Kinna:         There you go, you go your answer.

 

Tony:         Done. I don’t even remember what the question were now. Oh well if, if Zyrtec is helping you that’s, you know a lot of allergy meds work because they push a person very far into that sympathetic state. And they do it with a drug that’s strong. And it’s like a locomotive and that’s why it works. So if you can find ways to push yourself more sympathetic like we’re talking about then you won’t need those drugs as much. And that’ll be helpful.

 

Will:         Yeah. And why we develop them more over time it’s usually like we said earlier you’re falling more and more deeply into different imbalances that are causing them in the first place.

 

Tony:         Or digestion is functioning worse and worse and worse over the years and years.

 

Will:         Yeah. So in that way yeah, they can be reversed as you fix your digestions and balance your body chemistry. You’ll find that you just don’t really get those symptoms anymore.

 

Tony:         Right.

 

Kinna:         Alright. I think, is that it? We did it, we did it all.

 

Tony:         So where can we find more stuff about you, Will?

 

Will:         Yeah. You can check me out on My Body of Knowledge on Facebook, or MyBodyOfKnowledge.net. And I have a fancy little blog there where I’ll make some other posts. I’m going to do another one on the common cold. Probably one on allergies and such too as spring is coming.

 

Kinna:         Cool. Alright. So if you want to learn more about how to look at your own chemistry you can read any of Tony’s books or take the free four week Digestion Course at KickItInTheNuts.com. Until our next episode.

 

Tony:         Where we’ll be talking about lawn maintenance.

 

Kinna:         Yeah. So look at your stuff, people. Look at your stuff.

 

Tony:         Yeah. Bu-bye!

 

Will:    Bye.