Kick it naturally – Acne, Eczema and skin issues.
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T.C. Hale is not a doctor and does not claim to be a doctor, licensed in any type of medical field. Don’t be an idiot and use anything heard on this show as medical advice. This information should be used for educational purposes only and you should contact your doctor for any medical advice. Now get off me.
Kinna: Welcome to Kick it Naturally, I’m Kinna McInroe, and I’m here with T.C. Hale, author, natural health expert, producer, and jack of all asses.
Tony: Oh, now I gotta be around all the asses?
Kinna: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What’s up? Are you doing okay today?
Tony: I’m doing fine and thank you for asking. I’d like to thank you for asking.
Kinna: Oh, good. It’s just polite. I really don’t care what your answer is. I’m just being polite. Okay, and then I have sitting here to my left, who is actually half naked, uh, Will Schmidt. What’s up, Will?
Will: How are you?
Kinna: He’s a fitness trainer to the stars and he’s pretty darn cute and sweet and he can cook a mean quiche.
Will: As we saw today.
Kinna: Uh huh. Exactly.
Tony: Have we decided which half of him is naked? Cause that could…
Kinna: The best half. I’ll leave that to the imagination of the listeners. So um, if you have not followed us yet on Facebook at kick it in the nuts, then you’re dumb, okay.
Tony: Uh huh. Dumb.
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Tony: I like it when people ask questions about their poop and then we make fun of their ass. It’s good times.
Kinna: It’s good stuff. Good fodder. So today’s topic is acne and other weird freaky skin conditions.
Tony: Dun, dun, dun….Franken…things.
Tony: We’ll go over terms later. We’ll figure out some and we’ll come back and try harder.
Kinna: Okay, good. So this covers like eczema and all that kind of crap and…..
Tony: And even freaky stuff.
Kinna: And freaky stuff.
Tony: We had some people ask questions about you know freaky stuff too and I like that.
Kinna: This one time I found this I had this skin tag, I guess is what it’s called, I don’t know why it just popped up and it was on the inside of my thigh and I took scissors and cut it off….
Tony: That is a great story.
Kinna: And it never came back.
Tony: That’s the greatest story ever.
Will: Scissors are usually my solution.
Kinna: Yeah, and it really didn’t even hurt. I was surprised too and it barely bled.
Tony: And in the middle of the night, what did the skin tag fairy bring you?
Kinna: What did the skin say? Roof roof.
Tony: Did you get a quarter? Did you get a quarter under your pillow?
Will: South Park episode.
Kinna: No, I did not get anything. Maybe it was missing foreskin from one of my former boyfriends?
Tony: That’s probably what it was.
Kinna: Coming back to haunt me. Okay.
Tony: So let’s talk a little bit about the main causes usually of acne and then we’ll get into questions and all that. You feel okay about doing all that, Kinna?
Kinna: Yeah, I’m good as long as I don’t have to pop any zits, I’m okay.
Tony: Yeah, we’re gonna pop zits some other show.
Kinna: Oh good.
Tony: But the main issue that when we’re looking at acne and a lot of skin issues, maybe not all of them, but most people look at it as what do I need to put on that? There’s gotta be something that I can wipe on that that’s gonna fix it and they kind of view it as almost a they must be having a lotion deficiency and that’s not the cause, especially with kids you see today, with their acne, when you look at it, and your like, oh man, that just hurts, that’s gotta hurt, there is stuff leaking out of it right now.
Kinna: Oh. Ugh.
Tony: And, and you know when you are a kid, I had acne and I hated it, it was horrid. It was less fun.
Kinna: You still do. He looks like one big giant zit.
Tony: Uh-huh, I am a zit. They call me ziti, um, but, what happens in a lot of situations, is a person can’t process the food that they are eating or they are taking in more junk than their body can get rid of. The skin is this awesome back up turbo, organ that can help the body pull junk out that shouldn’t be in there. It has all of these little holes in it, they are called pores, we know about that. So, if the body is having a hard time removing all of this junk it’ll just shove it out the pores of the body and if this junk clogs up those pores, then it starts to affect our skin. And we are not so pretty.
Kinna: Mmm-hum, cause your skin is like swiss cheese with a bunch of holes and then filth comes out it and makes a zit.
Tony: Right, right, so if the filth gets stuck there, that’s going to create, some type of skin irritation, or a zit, or a big old skin tag you know, I don’t know what you got going on. But a lot of the times, it’s about ok, what is the toxin that the body is trying to get rid of that it’s having a hard time and it has to use the skin as an exit strategy? And a lot of times, it’s people won’t have their bile flowing in a manner where they can emulsify fats when they eat them. They can’t process those fats, so the fats don’t get emulsified, and now they are in the body, undigested, and now the body is like, we gotta get this, these don’t belong here. So it starts pushing it out through the skin and that can create a lot of acne issues.
Kinna: Eww. Crisco. Coming out of the pores.
Tony: Yeah, and a lot of people would just wipe it off, and save it in the can and save it for cooking later. I don’t want to eat at their house.
Kinna: Well have you seen those things on line, I don’t know, you can Google it, like cysts and they are the hugest, like, cysts you’ve ever seen in your life, and people pop them and puss comes out like 25 gallons.
Will: This is the grossest episode.
Tony: Are you talking about on their neck or something that?
Kinna: Yeah, on their backs and stuff. What causes that? I mean they’re like the biggest honkers you’ve ever seen. And one was like 25 years in the making a black head that was like the size of it was bigger than the size of a quarter and it was disgusting.
Tony: I don’t have too many clients come to me with that so I don’t have a lot of experience…
Kinna: I get bored.
Tony: With big Frankenboltz on the side of your neck kind of thing, but we’ll look into that for those folks cause it sounds like they might need some help.
Kinna: They need help.
Tony: Well, Will, what other kind of stuff do you see as far as toxins?
Will: Yeah, what I would look at like other than like as you’ve already talked about problems with digestion causing toxic retention, not breaking down foods well, and not eliminating waste cause of bile flow issues. I would also look at some more nuanced skin issues like warts and fungal infections and bacterial infections and that leads us to an imbalance that we’ve looked at and described in a lot of our courses on and in your books the catabolic and anabolic issues.
Tony: Uh huh.
Will: So one thing we know is that people that are in a catabolic imbalance tend to have more bacterial and fungal problems like under their finger nails and toe nails and things like that. Where as an anabolic person tends to be more prone to a viral infection. Which is what warts are from. So when people’s like tissues are closed off and they’re not letting enough oxygen in a wart virus can thrive and it’ll prosper. So there’s a lot of attention that should be paid to are you in a catabolic or anabolic imbalance? Are you dealing with either of those issues?
Tony: So warts don’t come from frogs then?
Will: Well, you could maybe get it from a frog, but the reason why it’ll stick around and cause you problems would be like if you’re stuck in an anabolic imbalance. Or if your tissues are deplete of calcium it’ll make you susceptible also to like colds and flus and other viruses.
Tony: Right. And another thing to consider before we get into questions is that you look at a lot of kids that really get the bad acne and you think about when digestion really comes online and uh, someone’s digestion really matures as they finish up going through puberty and they become that’s why a girl can now have a baby when she’s you know becomes a woman then. And she’s fancy. It’s because her digestion has matured to the point that it’s functioning fully um, so that’s why a lot of those kids just kind of grow out of that acne is that their digestion develops to the point that uh, the food that they’re eating is not becoming junk in the body that has to be pushed out through the skin. The other thing is that you know now we there’s so much their drinking all the sodas and all these chemicals in everything is more than what the body can handle, so don’t think that you’re not allowed to handle have anything processed or you’re gonna break out. The body’s made to remove a lot of that junk, but when you take it in in the manner that we’re taking it in today, it’s more than the body can handle in a lot of cases and it’s starting to push the stuff out of the skin and that’s when we get the issues.
Kinna: So when people say it’s hormonal like if you’re about to start your period and you get more pimples or whatever or you’re in highschool and you’re going through puberty, so your hormones have nothing to do with it? It’s mainly digestion and the food?
Tony: I think they can have something to do with it, but in a lot of cases those hormones are jacking up to different levels because of other needs in the body like before your period…
Kinna: But still not taking care, it’s not able to take care of it because it’s doing all these things for resources this way?
Tony: Yeah, like if you’re starting your period. That takes a lot of resources to do that. So your body’s putting a lot towards that. And if it doesn’t have enough, then hormones will jack up to try and help that process happen and that may be effect some skin issues as well. You o.k. with that, Will?
Will: Yeah, I’m o.k.
Will: In general.
Tony: Thanks for coming out.
Will: Didn’t want to say anything, it isn’t always the case, but in general.
Tony: Right. Right. That’s not the rule. But we’re just saying what happens. So, you know, keep that in mind too when we’re talking about these things that they may not effect you. We like to look at things by figuring out what the issue is with you and uh…
Kinna: Everyone’s a special flower.
Tony: Very special. Like a snow flake.
Kinna: Uh huh. Exactly. We’re all individuals.
Will: One other thing I’d like to add is when we look at like the variety of different issues like in addition to acne or we already mentioned like fungal infections and wart problems and things like that I always like to remind the person trying to solve the problem to go back to the basic chemistry. And just try to address that. Their digestion and their chemistry. And try to just push those parameters into where they should be so you can learn where your ideal ranges for those parameters are and what the parameters are. All those points of balance by reading any of Tony’s books or going through our online courses. To just help you kind of address all those things at once. And they really do all go together. The skin is kind of just a reflection of what else is just going on on the inside.
Tony: Yeah, yeah.
Will: And it’s a complex picture of you know bringing yourself into balance, so it’s important to kind of look at all those different factors and just work on trying to get yourself into those ideal ranges in general. And you’ll see a lot of your symptoms will just fall away as you do that.
Tony: Right. Right.
Kinna: Hm. Interesting. I know for myself I suffer with not really necessarily acne, but I get really really super dry. Super dry, my scalp the backs of my feet, my hands, my face, everything gets dry. I’ll even get like dry patches and is that nutrition is that weather? What is that?
Tony: You know I think weather can play a part in it and I think Will agrees with that, but I don’t know that it would be the outstanding thing. If you look at everything that the body uses to create the cells and you know it’s water it’s all these sterols and fatty acids and all this stuff, so when if weather effects your skin more than it does someone else, I think you have to assume that the body is missing something that it needs and we know that you if you drink a whole bunch of water…
Kinna: Uh huh. I’m flushing stuff out.
Tony: Your blood pressure goes and you’re psycho and you think you’re a fire truck.
Kinna: Uh huh. Exactly.
Tony: So you know you try to avoid that.
Will: You can also look at like what tendencies does your body have and what climate are you in. For example, when I go to like a very dry, arid climate my skin’s really great cause it tends to be more oily, but if I go to a humid place I’ll have more breakouts and vice versa.
Kinna: And your clothes are slipping off you?
Will: Yeah, just fallin’….drapping off.
Tony: It’s not always about Will’s clothes. It is a lot of the time.
Will: Right, right. But that’s good to know cause if you think about like tailoring your diet to also like look at all the factors like, how hot is it? How dry is it? Like and you can set yourself up for you know to prepare for what your body’s exposed to everyday.
Tony: Sure. You know a lot of when it’s more humid out the body is also it’s easier for it to sweat and it’s constantly pushing some junk out, those pores are flowing and they don’t get as backed out that could be a factor as well. We’re gonna get into some more of this stuff let’s do some questions and see what people are freaking out about. So calm down.
Kinna: Do some questions. Alright. Yeah. Okay, well I already answered the first one cause that was mine.
Tony: Way to go.
Kinna: Alright, Madeline, from Toluca Lake, CA. My daughter started breaking out after she went on birth control. Any correlation there? How old’s her daughter? Is what I wanna know.
Tony: Yeah, why is she on birth control? What’s up?
Kinna: So she’s sleeping with people? Hm…interesting.
Tony: Will, why don’t you talk a little bit about birth control.
Will: Well, in general, and most doctors will, from my experience, disagree with what I’m about to say, but in general we see birth control affecting bile flow by restricting it. Just like the body doesn’t know the difference from the stimulus from the drug birth control that it causes constriction of the fallopian tube which prevents the egg from dropping. It doesn’t just constrict the fallopian tube, but it also often restricts bile flow by constricting the biliary pathway where bile’s supposed to flow through, so then the toxins don’t get out of the body the way they should and they recirculate and that can cause acne for the reasons that we talked about earlier.
Tony: And it’s a big deal because when you’re restricting bile flow, not only now you can’t process fats, so those fats are gonna be a problem that have to be pushed out through your skin, but now you took away the body’s main exit strategy for toxins. So your if you have no bile flow you’re basically having to poop out of your skin. It’s not attractive. It’s like a crap faced Chia pet situation. You don’t want that.
Kinna: Ok. No.
Will: Sounds bad.
Tony: Yeah, you don’t want that. And that’s just some you know different birth control avenues may work in different factors, but we see this happen a lot and I think some birth controls even have added medications in them to help skin and some doctors will even put ‘em on birth control to help their skin because they have these factors in them, but we see a lot of people that are on birth control that have skin issues because the bile is not flowing and once you get the bile flowing and once you get the bile flowing they seem to do a lot better.
Kinna: I think they need to come up with a birth control that restricts your vagina, so that you can’t get a penis in. And then you won’t get pregnant.
Tony: It’s brilliant!
Will: I don’t think it will sell as well.
Kinna: And then you don’t have to worry about your bile. You don’t have to worry about all that.
Tony: I think that we’ll develop that today and we’ll go on Shark Tank.
Kinna: Ok. Great! Great! Cool.
Will: It’s called a chastity belt. It’s already been done.
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: It’s called babysitting a two year old.
Kinna: That’ll do it! Zoe, from Los Angeles, CA. So, why does like my face get like so greasy? I hate it.
Tony: Oh, no!
Will: That’s a good one.
Tony: Uh huh. Well, think about what if you can’t process that fat and the body’s gonna push fat out through the skin, what’s that gonna feel like on your skin?
Kinna: Not good.
Tony: It’s gonna be Crisco-ey.
Kinna: Yeah, it’s greasy.
Tony: That’s pretty common in that scenario. Do you have other reasons why the skin can get a little more greasy?
Will: Um, like I would also look at what’s what’s your atmosphere like? And what products and such might you be using? So we wanna emphasize like looking at what’s going on the inside. That’s maybe where we have the most useful insights to add.
Tony: Uh huh.
Will: But I would say also, she’s in LA, maybe she does a lot of lousy makeup and there’s for sure pollution.
Tony: She puts on a lot of makeup before she goes to the gym.
Kinna: It’s Estee Lauder and no, they are not our sponsors.
Will: Yeah, these are hypo-allergenic. But you might also look at that and look at one of the main things that helps keep our cells clean is albium, one of the blood proteins. And they found that the more hygienic a person is like the more often they’re washing with soaps and things the higher blood albium levels they have. And that helps fight off like the bacteria and stuff which can cause the irritation and inflammation which shows up as acne. So, I would also look at those cosmetic things given that she’s in LA.
Tony: Uh huh.
Kinna: And take lots of showers.
Tony & Will: Sure.
Kinna: Ok. Lori, from Felthamsloth, United Kingdom. My thirteen year old daughter has been using cinnamon and honey face masks for about a month now and her skin has greatly improved.
Tony: I don’t wanna talk to Lori. She sounds fancy.
Kinna: Yeah, Lorie is.
Tony: Yeah. I think that, you know, one thing that’s important to understand is that there are things out there that seem to work well for people improving their acne you know as far as skin lotions or washes and all these kind of things. So if you think about that, if the body’s filled with something that it’s trying to push out through the skin if you can clean out those pores then they don’t get clogged up and you don’t get as much of an irritation.
Tony: Irratayshun. I’m talking to Lorie now. So my accents just not as good.
Kinna: Oh, ok.
Tony: Um, but you can benefit yourself by cleaning out the pores, but a lot of times that’s hard to try and keep up with and if you can fix the problem from the inside, then all of a sudden you don’t have to walk around all day afraid that a bear’s gonna come lick your face cause you have honey all over it.
Kinna: Exactly. And be attacked. That would be scar….don’t take ‘em camping, Lorie. Do not take ‘em camping.
Will: And I would also say that like sometimes these little like house…remedies.
Kinna: Home remedies.
Will: Are exactly what that person’s chemistry happen to need. And other times like I know if I put honey on my face I’d break out like crazy.
Kinna: Well, if I put honey on my face I’d be licking my face all day and weigh 500lbs.
Will: Right. And that would be weird, so you don’t wanna just do that cause Lorie did it and it worked for her.
Kinna: But Lorie did it.
Will: Right, right. Well, if Lorie jumped off a bus….like so, you wanna look at like how did this effect this person’s chemistry. Maybe it was the anti-inflammatory things in the cinnamon or the anti-microbial things in the honey, or maybe it pushed the pH in her skin the way it needed to go, but it’s nuanced you wanna look at like your chemistry.
Tony: It is a pretty a solid chance that if something works for somebody else it could make somebody else worse. No matter what it is. Right down to water.
Kinna: Uh huh. Exactly.
Tony: You know. Every single thing. Yeah.
Kinna: Exactly! You boys are smart. Cathy, from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Any suggestions for fragrant sensitivities and chemical sensitivities?
Tony: Um, I’m from Florida and I don’t talk like that.
Kinna: Well, I don’t really know how Floridians talk.
Tony: I’m just saying you should’ve done a voice like me.
Kinna: Oh, ok. I’ll try to. I can’t do it.
Tony: So uh, this is an interesting thing because this is something I’ve dealt with a lot. When I was sick and on listening to all the doctors and on a lot of medications.
Kinna: Cause you went to a bunch of doctors, 8 years of struggles. That’s how he found out all this stuff, people. He’s not just brilliant. He had to study.
Tony: It was not an accident. Um, so uh, but because my body was so toxic, all those like cleaning products and fragrances they all have chemicals in there and when you breathe it in you’re taking stuff in the body and the body’s made to where you can remove some of that. You don’t have to run from everybody’s who’s wearing Drakkar. Although if you’re hanging out with somebody who’s still wearing Drakkar, you might wanna take away their parachute pants and have them step up or something.
Kinna: I love Drakkar.
Tony: But, the problem is is that it’s usually a situation where your body’s already overloaded and a lot of times that’s a liver issue where the liver just can’t keep up with the toxins that it’s trying to remove, so it’s kind of like everything that you walk by hits you harder and I was at the point where I just couldn’t be in the same house as….
Tony: Any type of cleaning product, nobody could wear perfume of any kind anywhere around me.
Kinna: He was so anal.
Tony: So annoying. Um, but now I sniff perfume, I snort it.
Kinna: Yeah. Cool. Cool.
Tony: Like a glue.
Kinna: I’m going to start wearing Drakkar everyday.
Tony: Right. So it’s I view it as a situation where the body is too toxic and it’s having a hard time and it can’t take in extra like most people normally can.
Will: Uh huh. That’s why I like that approach of just looking at the overall chemistry. And your digestion and just working on getting yourself as balanced as you can. Because it raises what we refer to as like adaptive capacity. Your body’s ability to deal with shit.
Tony: Right. Right. And when you look at digestion, um, bile flow is so important to liver function because bile is where the garbage is delivered did all the work, took out all this garbage and it put it in the bile like that’s the garbage man. So the garbage man never shows up and the liver’s like I still got all this garbage and it gets overwhelmed. So that’s why the bile is so important in that respect.
Kinna: Then you’ve got a big landfill in you.
Tony: Uh huh. Nice. Ok. Megan, from Kooihawka Falls, Ohio. Hey Tony! Can you talk about which imbalances might effect eczema and how much different…oh, wait, let’s go back there. And how different foods might aggravate eczema symptoms. What kind of hope is there to improve these symptoms through nutrition? Zero! No. You stumped us.
Tony: Nah. Um, I think eczema is a big thing with it we always wanna look at how the liver’s functioning for that person. Um, and there’s other things like psoriasis can be a little more advanced there can be other issues going on, um, and that can be a little harder to deal with. Eczema seems to be a little easier to see improvement with when you help somebody improve digestion.
Kinna: Well, what is the difference? I’m confused.
Tony: The spelling.
Kinna: Yes, the spelling. Good answer.
Kinna: Well, I just thought it was all kind of the same. Eczema and psoriasis.
Will: Well, no. I used to have like horrendous eczema and it…
Kinna: Oh, Will.
Will: Yeah, and when it first started I thought it was a poison oak outbreak. I thought I like hiked through a forest somewhere because it was these huge red intensely itchy boily oily things on my calves and my wrists.
Kinna: Oh wow.
Will: It was awful and I really thought it was just poison oak, but then it just didn’t go away and started like spreading. Like months and months. Whereas some other people I’ve known who’ve had psoriasis, they’re more like dry red patches, not so much blisters and they’ll come up for different reasons and like people can start to know their triggers and sometimes they’ll feel like itching preceding like a patch where it’s gonna break out. But it looks quite different and there’s nuanced causes for each one.
Tony: I have heard theories about psoriasis, I just don’t know enough about it so I don’t wanna just share ‘em, but you know to where it can be more a bacterial type issue type of thing and stuff that I’m not so sure about but when we talk about eczema um, if you help somebody’s liver function better, they seem to do a lot better. And if you look at food, like Megan’s asking about, well, does a person have some sensitivities to food? To where when they eat this food it is like their body’s going to war? So now the body’s dealing with all this other stuff and it ends up you know things that could’ve been regularly removed from the body it ends up pushing through the skin and causing irritations. Um, so you gotta kind of look at does a food cause irritations for other reasons not just a skin issue?
Will: Uh huh. Yeah. I know for me like when I fixed it, when I found like the right approach, it worked right away. Like I had intense itching spread like these boils and stuff for years. Tried steroid creams and things like that. Tried reducing carbohydrates a little bit, but nothing…
Tony: For you, was it that you just needed to watch old episodes of Different Strokes?
Tony: And that pretty much took care of it?
Will: And it was just season 1.
Tony: Whatchu talkin’ bout, Willis?
Will: But it was a whole overall. It was like actually it was an alkaline cleanse at first, but not saying that the alkalinity like helped it necessarily or hurt it. But what was true about the approach that I took was there were no toxins in….I wasn’t taking like weight gainers and protein powders and weird garbage that my body couldn’t identify or digest. So, it did take a complete over haul, but it worked right away. It never came back. So I would say like for a person like trying to figure out what it is for them, it’s great to focus on the fundamentals. Look, try to get your digestion working well. Get your liver function on point. Don’t eat things that you know are toxic or that are processed and artificial.
Tony: Right. Soda and all these things your body’s having a hard time with and maybe look at things like more leafy green vegetables that have all that good nutrients in there that can bind a toxin and help them move out of the body as well. So, not only do you need to eat good foods, but reduce the stuff that’s causing the problem in the first place.
Tony: This next is this….
Kinna: This is Dawn.
Tony: She has 3. Maybe read Dawn’s and the one after her cause they kind of talked about similar stuff.
Kinna: We’ll break it up a little bit. But Dawn, you only get 1 question when you ask your questions, not 3, next time. Greedy. No, I’m kidding. You can ask as many as you want.
Tony: Yeah, she had good ones too.
Kinna: Uh, Dawn, I have a spot on the outside of my thigh about arms length down that itches frequently. No redness, rash, can’t even tell it’s there. But I will wear out a spot on my jeans from scratching it. It’s not in my head or a nervous reaction. It’s something. I have no clue. Been there for years now.
Tony: Let’s have Sarah’s too.
Kinna: Alright, Sarah, here from Los Angeles, Ca. Dawn, I have a similar thing to your number 1 and that was the number 1 question, except mine is on my upper right arm. Sometimes, when it is really bad, it does get slightly red, but most of the time it’s not noticeable. I know for sure mine is food related though because the only time it goes away is when I have not been on point.
Tony: When I have….
Kinna: Oh, when I have been on point with my nutrition for a few weeks straight. The more I slip up the worse it gets. I haven’t pinpointed it if it’s a certain food or just an overall. Being good thing or bad thing is what she meant by overall.
Kinna: I added that last part.
Tony: So for Dawn’s question number 1, and Dawn had 17 questions, but we edited it down to her top 3 that we liked the favorite of, um but uh, when you look at a specific area of the body and um, and Rene in the support group posted some facial map thing that said like you know if this part of your face is doing this it means this and I don’t know how much I buy into to that. That could be true I just don’t really know. And Rene said she didn’t know either, but um, a lot of times people’s pores can get blocked up. You know you talk to people and they don’t even sweat. Like oh, I never sweat and the reason that person doesn’t sweat if because their pores have become clogged. And if you go and sit in a hot sauna or something like that um, you can pop those corks and get it going again and a person can start to sweat again. So, you know it kind of makes you wonder is this just a part of your body where the body has found a good passage for it to move junk out.
Will: Uh huh.
Tony: I don’t know. What are your thoughts on that, Will?
Will: Uh, I would look at it like with what Sarah said about being on point kind of with everything vs. like an alternate approach like an allergy elimination diet where some people will go on trying to figure out what single food is causing it and or what you know single like maybe sugar or whatever it is. And that’s why I think it’s so important to focus on your overall chemistry.
Will: Rather than saying oh, you have this list of allergens, so never eat avocado and artichokes…
Kinna: Or Cheetos.
Will: And whatever it is cause things like the ALCAT test can be really misleading to a lot of people where they’ll get this list of all these different foods that they should never have again.
Tony: Right. If you wanna have lunch have to leave Earth.
Will: Right. Only have red grapes or whatever it is, but what we’ve seen from like over and over when looking at people’s chemistry and these lists that I’ve seen in cross comparison, is that it’s not that they have a genetic allergen to a particular food necessarily, sometimes that’s the case, but a lot of times it’s just these foods are pushing their body chemistry into an imbalanced state and if they fixed their overall chemistry, they could have those foods in moderation again. So, I would look at that again, like point Sarah and Dawn back to the basics of getting your overall chemistry in line. Make sure you’re digestion’s working well and see if that benefits it. Makes you less sensitive.
Tony: Right. And what’s interesting about what Sarah said is you know if you had some itchy thing on one spot of your body, you would’ve tried 40 creams you know already. You’re trying a different cream every week or going to try to find some type of remedy. An what she finds is that when she eats good foods and she’s not putting junk in her body all day, that it just kind of stops. So, that’s a pretty good sign that a lot of what’s going on is happening inside and it’s not it doesn’t need to be treated on the outside.
Kinna: Hm. Go within to go outside.
Tony: That was deep.
Tony: Let’s go to Dawn’s question number 7.
Kinna: Ok. Here we go…My son…now she’s talking about her son, my son gets light spotty blotchy discolorations. Mainly on his back and front shoulder areas. You can really tell sometimes after he’s been in the sun. At first we thought it was him jumping in the South Plate River in Colorado, that is highly contaminated or wrestling an aftermath of ringworm, Oh. But sometimes it improves and then gets worse again. A neighbor girl in Idaho, actually has the same thing. Maybe they’re sleeping together? We have used Chlorophyll, yeast, candida detoxes, intestinal detoxes and he eats really good as well. Home cooks all the time. I have wondered though if it could be from beer consumption? Maybe….?
Tony: Hm. Yeah.
Kinna: The only downfall of his. The neighbor girl is a drinker too. So just think…He and this neighbor.
Will: This sounds like trouble.
Kinna: They’re shaking up and they’re drinking beer.
Tony: Weird! There’s this weird rash that we’ve never seen on any other humans accept these two and it’s only on their genital areas. We’re not sure what’s going on.
Kinna: yeah, and they drink beer before they get together.
Tony: Yeah. So have you ever had a client where they’ve had this Will? Where the skin gets discolored or they don’t have the kind of pigment thing kind of thing.
Will: Yeah, definitely.
Kinna: Where it’s like white or kind of like that Michael Jackson thing that’s going on?
Will: Uh huh.
Tony: Where all the cool kids were doing it.
Will & Kinna: Yeah. Yeah
Tony: No, but there is a and a lot of practitioners have told me that it can be a situation where digestion is not functioning enough to create this there’s a pigment that gets created and that person if they’re not able to do that then the skin starts to blotch and it’ll just fade into specific areas so that may be what’s going on. I don’t know how beers involved with that.
Kinna: I basically have no pigment then. I’m just like I’m so white I just have….
Tony: You’re one big splotch.
Kinna: Yeah. Exactly.
Will: I lived 5 years in India and you’d see a lot of that…
Kinna: You lived in India for 5 years?
Will: Yeah. Yeah.
Kinna: Oh, wow!
Tony: You were working tech support?
Will: Mostly. Yeah, I did a lot of telemarketing.
Kinna: And you worked at 7-Eleven.
Will: 3 rubies an hour. It was rough. But, they have a ton of is it called Vitiligo? I don’t know. What’s the name of it.
Tony: Yeah, I think that’s it. I’m trying to drink when I’m talking.
Will: But mostly in Mumbai where it’s super gross, it’s so toxic. No to offend like any people…
Kinna: Everyone in Mumbai.
Will: But the city is just awful. It’s so disgusting.
Kinna: Just go on and on and use every adjective.
Will: I don’t wanna be a racist, but……No!
Tony: You don’t wanna be offensive or nothing? I don’t wanna say your city’s horrible, but grab a broom.
Will: No, it’s so polluted and when you go to like the outskirts like Kerala or Goa, you don’t see any of that. So again, it points to like toxins in their environment, in their food, in their air, in their water. So maybe the wrestling? Maybe the wrestling maybe the river? Maybe this drinking prostitute whatever?
Kinna: Yeah, with the neighbor girl.
Will: I would look at toxicity and what is it doing with digestion.
Tony: Right, and is his digestion on track in the first place? Because if the pigment, the blotching is you know if it spreads or it’s like an obvious different color. That may be a pigment situation that may improve if he improves his digestion.
Kinna: Alright. And here’s her number 3 question. I have friends that are allergic to the sun and get rashes, blisters and…..,
Will: You have friends, Dawn?
Kinna: Yeah, blisters and not from burns, but regular exposure to sun. Many on the shoulders, Cleavage areas, all those girls are smokers. Coincidence? Who is your son hanging out with and all these people?
Tony: I think that we should limit to 2 questions, but it’s only cause I don’t know the answer to this one. No, but I know that smoking can constrict capillaries to where you know that could that could cause some kind of problem, but I don’t have a thought of why.
Kinna: It might make the skin darker just from the uh, what ever it’s called? Tar. It colors your teeth.
Tony: Tar from smoking? Yeah, I don’t know. I think Will has an idea.
Will: Well, I have some thoughts. One is like, smoking like causes vitamin C deficiencies usually which makes the skin, it’s essential for healthy skin. Cause in extreme cases Scurvy, but also just like poor skin health when you don’t have enough vitamin C. Plus, all the toxins from smoking in general can make you like really like light sensitive and screw you up in lots of ways. And then also you can look at how is sunlight itself affecting that person’s chemistry. Look at like the vitamin D you get from the sun. For some people like if their urine pH is too high or if they’re leaning too anabolic and the vitamin D from the sun pushes them even more anabolic it can exacerbate all sorts of imbalances including skin issues.
Tony: Sure. Yeah.
Kinna: Maybe they’re vampires? Have they ever thought about that?
Tony: We did not consider that, but I think that’s gonna be our number 1 answer.
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: So, uh, Dawn, they’re probably vampires. So, don’t hang out with them that much.
Kinna: Yeah, and stab them in the heart with a wooden stake.
Tony: Yes. See if that fixes it.
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: Good thing people take what we say to heart.
Kinna: Exactly. We’re gonna have like a slew of people doing what we say and it’s gonna be like on the news and people murdering vampires. Amber, does excess, oh, Amber, does excess facial hair count? I’m not even joking. I don’t take any weird supplements, but have a battle with unibrow. Wanna beard and a stache.
Tony: Wanna be.
Kinna: Wanna be beard and a stache. So her unibrow wants to be a beard and a stache?
Tony & Will: No, she has a unibrow and she has a beard and a stache.
Kinna: Ok. $5 to whomever calls me bearded lady. Bearded lady. I get the $5.
Tony: Alright, Kinna’s got dibs on the $5. So this is a real thing. And um, it’s called I don’t know how to pronounce it Hirsutism. But it’s where females have more body hair and it can be really hard for them. It can be a tough thing for a girl to go through. I’ve had clients…
Kinna: You should see my chest.
Tony: Yeah, I know. Um, but I’ve really had clients that literally had to shave every day and then put on really thick makeup and it’s……
Tony: And like it was really hard for them to deal with. Um, so, one thing that I have found it tends to be a situation where the people that deal with this issue are usually more anabolic and I happen to know that Amber does tend to be more anabolic so that’s interesting to me. Um, but in the anabolic state, it’s that rebuilding state, so your body makes more testosterone. Um, so not only are you raising testosterone, but when testosterone is raised estrogen levels can go low too. So I’ve seen some people where they took steps to try and push estrogen higher. Like they were, the person was eating more soy. Cause soy can mimic estrogen in the body. Um, and they seem to see some improvement. So that might be, you know soy’s not something that I like to tell people to use a lot because it mimics estrogen and that usually causes all kinds of problems, but if you needed to raise estrogen, I wonder if soy would be a decent idea for you.
Will: Yeah, you can also look at like what they may be consuming that might be what nutrients might be restricting estrogen production.
Will: It could be foods that would otherwise be healthy. They could also like try pushing themselves to be extra catabolic. You know?
Tony: Right, so that the body’s not testosterone high.
Will: Rather than thinking their only solution is to like inject estrogen.
Tony: Or to buy stock in Bic.
Tony: Right, to avoid that.
Will: So yeah, try to push your chemistry to be a little more estrogenic.
Tony: Right. That’s good. So I’ll be interested to see what happens with Amber if she makes her little self if she makes herself a little less anabolic.
Kinna: Ok. Interesting. I’m anabolic and now I’m scared I’m gonna start getting really hairy.
Tony: Uh huh.
Kinna: Um, ok. Julie, from Bonnersferry, I was gonna call it bonersferry. Bonnersferry, Idaho. I was taught by a naturopath eczema is a liver issue. True or false? And Chinese medicine says it’s an energy blockage. Oh, those Chinese, they don’t know.
Tony: Kinna is having an Asian issue this week.
Kinna: I love Asians.
Tony: We’ve had stirfry every day this week. I don’t know what the problems is.
Will: Well, yeah, we always wanna say it depends. Not as a cop out, but because it really can depend.
Kinna: But it is a good cop out.
Will: It is a good cop out. Yeah, it works most of the time. I mean but for certain cases of eczema for me, you could definitely say my liver health was part of it, but it was also my massive consumption of artificial weight gainer protein powders things.
Tony: So whether your liver wasn’t functioning correctly or there was just so much junk going in that the liver was having a hard time with that could be the thing.
Tony: I like to you know Chinese medicine says it’s an energy blockage. Well think about if a liver’s not functioning right that’s a lot of flow that you’re losing. Everything’s sludging up so, you know it’s two different views that are kind of actually saying the same thing.
Will: Uh huh.
Kinna: True dat.
Tony: It got trued. Kinna trued it.
Kinna: I guess the Chinese were right. Shoot! Alright, Katie, from Long Island. My lips get dry in the corners of my mouth crack and bleed. Nothing I try seems to improve it. Any ideas?
Tony: I had that, Katie. It was the worst. It was the worst. I think I had it for like a year.
Tony: It was brutal. It was right after I’d gotten off all the drugs and my body was all beaten up and I was I was a wreck.
Tony: Yeah, it was sad times. Anybody wanna pet my head?
Kinna: Uh huh.
Tony: Um, so, I looked for answers for this for a really long time and then this chiropractor told me it’s like oh, it’s a vitamin B deficiency. And I was like, I don’t know about that? So I tried it. I tried some different types of vitamin B and it totally worked. And it never came back. Um, but it was a I found that there was different types of vitamin B you know there’ll just be a part of the molecules, um, and I had to find something that was a full complex of all the vitamins that go in that vitamin B family. And that seemed to be what did it for me. Yeah it was freaky. So I don’t know if that’s the answer and I don’t understand what the actual cause is, I never did figure that out, but what when I did that it worked and I’ve seen other people do the same.
Kinna: Hm. Interesting.
Tony: I think they call it keyosis or kilosis or something like that.
Kinna: And someone put a while back in the support group that they had dry lips all the time too and said they just put coconut oil on it and it really helped.
Tony: Yeah, with dry it’s different it’s not like a chapped lips thing. Your lips can be a little dryer, but the corners crack and bleed.
Kinna: That’s what my heels do sometimes. Yeah.
Tony: And people are always like are you eating ketchup cause it looks like you’re bleeding outta the side of your mouth. It pulls chicks.
Will: It’s a nice vampirish look.
Tony: Hope I don’t get stabbed in the heart.
Kinna: Uh huh. Rene, long term effects of standard medical acne treatments, like antibiotics and Acutane, and how to repair damage from past use? I think like back in school everybody was on Acutane that I remember. Like they couldn’t go out in the sun and all that stuff.
Tony: Yeah, what is the deal with that? Like you’re never allowed to go out in the sun?
Kinna: You’re not suppose to go in the sun when you’re on Acutane, but like how do you prevent that I mean….
Tony: I wonder if Dawn’s friends are on Acutane and that’s why they blister up?
Kinna: Yeah, exactly. Maybe, maybe?
Tony: When they go outside.
Kinna: Ask ‘em if they’re on Acutane, Dawn.
Tony: Will, why don’t you talk a little bit about especially the antibiotics part.
Will: Yeah, well, I mean that’s a very short term, short sided, approach to try to fix acne. If you’re like oh, it’s like bacteria on the skin so if we just kill the bacteria then you’re good. But then you’re destroying all of your flora and you’re messing up a big important part of digestion. So you don’t break down your food as well and you don’t get all the nutrients from it as well. So you’re going to have mid-term and long-term issues from that that you’d want to try to fix by taking a probiotic and making sure that your digestion is flowing the way you think it should.
Tony: That was Will that hit his mike, I didn’t do it. One time it wasn’t me. I’m the winner winner chicken dinner.
Tony: And I will say that that is important too. That if you do do antibiotics for any reason, once you’re done it is really important to do probiotics for a little bit, even if it’s just a week or two just to reestablish some gut flora in there.
Kinna: Alright. Mandy, from Memphis, Tennessee. Was told a couple of years ago by a dermatologist not to use anything on my face that is natural or edible because in her words, if you can eat it, bacteria can eat it too. And that caused acne. I know now that that’s not true and that acne is a result from toxins in the body. So my question is spot acne? Meaning acne only shows up in same spots on my face. Can you pinpoint a more direct cause if you are constantly getting acne only in one spot?
Tony: Is it a spot on your face where you’re always putting your hand?
Kinna: Maybe? Or maybe you’re always putting a piece of Crisco there? Or on your finger.
Tony: No, I don’t understand and I’ve had this issue before where there was just a part of my body that would have a bit of a dry spot or you know….
Kinna: I have that too. Where like one place always gets a pimple. Right there. Like always. Like that’s my place.
Tony: You know what’s great about Kinna too, is that you’re the perfect example of the body you know of a lot of acne issues being caused by toxins.
Kinna: Cause you can tell anytime. Yeah.
Tony: If a person’s been eating the wrong way for example, maybe a lot of cupcakes or something? I don’t know who would do that? But, the body gets defensive and starts shoving this stuff into fat cells and all these toxins into fat cells to store them. And then when are person starts to eat well, the body says oh, the coast is clear, and they’ll start pulling junk out of fat cells, putting back into the blood so that it can be filtered out and removed. But a lot of times when people do that the body may pull out too much junk and it likes more it got a handful and it’s like ok, now we gotta shove some out the skin. So whenever Kinna, used to start eating well, she would always get this huge breakout like with all these huge zits and I’d be like alright, you’re doing everything great. You’re doing it right.
Kinna: And he’d always be like oh, you’re all zitty. Oh, you must be eating good. Thanks for noticing.
Tony: Right. Um, yeah, cause she was a toxic mess.
Kinna: Uh huh,
Tony: Anyways, but as far as spot things…..
Kinna: Britney wrote a song about me.
Kinna: I’m toxic. Britney.
Tony: Yeah, right. You and Britney hang. Will, do you have any thoughts on why one specific area? I don’t even I don’t know why that would happen.
Kinna: This one place on my ass?
Will: Other than maybe what, other than personal problems, maybe what I’d look at, other than what you said already, about like certain places being blotchy, like the body’s found a good pathway of elimination there, it could be something very esoteric with your movement patterns and where lymph does and doesn’t flow well.
Tony: Sure, that’s interesting.
Will: Maybe in your daily routine you don’t do certain stretches or your posture’s off so the lymph doesn’t flow very well in a certain place.
Will: Or it could be an external thing like you hold your phone to your shoulder or something like that.
Kinna: And you’ve got a greasy phone.
Will: Right. Or your hair product leaks onto your face or whatever it is. Like you can look for external causes too, but it could have to do with lymphatic flowage.
Tony: Yeah, yeah and one thing to consider is that we talk about a lot of things that happen with the body and things that you could look at or try to figure out if that’s what’s going on with you, but really nobody knows how the body works. It’s just it’s really, it’s like more complicated than an etch-a-sketch. Really. And um, anybody that says that they understand everything that’s happening they’re wrong. They just don’t, but you know you can also look at it like when the body deposits calcium in joints and stuff you know some people can be arthritic in a specific situation just because that’s where the body has found that it can deposit things well. Um, so it could be doing the same type of situation with skin where just that area is a place that it has found that it could push junk out. Just a theory. Who knows?
Kinna: Hm. Nice. Well, we’re out of questions.
Tony: And we’re out of time.
Kinna: We’re out of time and out of questions. We did not mention today which is surprising. I think you mentioned it once, but we didn’t give the name. So if you wanna learn more about how to look at your own chemistry, you can read any of Tony’s books or take the FREE 4 week digestion course at kickitinthenuts.com. And you can get your digestion turned around there. You can fix a lot of problems and imbalances and you know it’s pretty nifty actually.
Tony: It’s the cool kids. And if you have eczema and you want to use the viewage of the “Different Strokes” reruns, Will says, season 1 seems to do the best.
Kinna: Exactly. Exactly.
Tony: So that’s our review.
Kinna: That’s it.
Tony: So if you have skin issues something that you’ll wanna look at is you’ll want to figure out is your bile flowing correctly? Cause many people it’s just too thick and sticky it’s not. That’s a big deal. And then look at the toxins that are going in your body. Um, does your liver have the ability to keep up with that? Maybe you could reduce that somehow? And if those don’t work then you really have to get down to what imbalances are going on with my body and if I correct those then does that help?
Kinna: And if all else fails then you can start looking at the external stuff like…
Tony: Sandpaper. Just sanding it down.
Tony: Scissors worked for Kinna.
Kinna: Scissors worked for skin tags. They worked for me. Alright, so join us next time where we’ll be talking about something. It’ll probably be gross.
Tony: Season 2. “Different Strokes” season 2.
Kinna: Alright. Exactly.
Will: Cheers I missed.
Kinna: Alright. Poop on.
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